@QueenMab87 I don't know, people chanting "from the river to the sea" may as well be chanting "jews must die" -- that is the precise meaning of the phrase for Hamas, and they've shown us time and again that is what they mean, so... ? Seems like @WalshFreedom sorta has a point to me...
@Mifield By using the term Nakhba as if it isn’t a one-sided way of reading history you close down conversation before it even begins. I’m not trying to take anybody’s tragedy from them but for me, and for most Jews, what you’re talking about is our atzmaut- independence.
But I’m still supposed to call for a ceasefire right? Because otherwise I’M the “genocidal settler colonialist”?!? Give me a break…. Ain’t none of this reasonable y’all. But the culprit is Hamas, not the Jews. Open your 👀
@QueenMab87 Neither is rocket launching against civilians. Nor sheltering weapons in hospitals. Nor using your own people as human shields. Not resistance and not helping to serve the Palestinian cause
It's only hard to condemn Hamas for butchering civilians, raping women, beheading babies, and kidnapping hundreds of civilians if you're a supporter of Hamas.
@QueenMab87 It’s the same when you take similar positions and remain Zionist— no matter what one tweets, it’s wrong and wicked. Feels like the right spot to be in though if it means keeping my eyes open both to our own suffering and that of others
Basically, the whole idea of antisemitism is that Jews are presented as disproportionally the problem, whatever that problem is. There are literally only 16million of us in the whole world.
@QueenMab87 The problem is that too many Palestinians support Hamas, and think Hamas are just innocent “resistance fighters”. That’s the problem with it right now in western left wing discourse.
@QueenMab87 In what world does anybody need “absolution” from a national identity? Certainly not a progressive world where humans are born into countries determined by grace and luck…
@QueenMab87 I'd like to know what zionist points you repeat too -- your content on here that I've seen has been pretty clearly and emphatically non-zionist.
@QueenMab87 calling the actions of Israeli government "ethnic cleansing" is also antisemitic, particularly given that the IDF DOES attempt to reduce civilian harm while Hamas works to increase it...
@QueenMab87 Yes, and when more educated people reject Zionism, despite it having been the only historical vehicle of the late 19th c. that allowed Jews the freedom to determine our own destiny, people like this one you're quoting get more powerful...
"I don't hate Jews I just hate the country where 50% of Jews in the world live, and the ideology that that country should exist which 80-90% of Jews in the world support"
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@RepPressley Seeing as Hamas violated it throughout with rocket fire, you might want to rethink this, Congresswoman. Asking Israel to cease now is asking the only Jewish state in the world not to defend Jewish lives against an existential threat in Hamas. Can you really be asking us that?
I'm a Palestinian man.
On October 7 Jewish women were raped by Palestinian terrorists.
I believe their testimonies. I saw the physical evidence in the Bearing Witness film.
I'm sick of seeing Jewish women's extreme trauma being ignored and dismissed as Israeli propaganda.
I just don't see how you can look at what's coming out of Gaza and blindly support Israel. Netanyahu is a criminal fascist.
I just don't see how you can deny the atrocity of Hamas' unspeakable acts and pretend there is a chance of any peace as long as Hamas exists.
@DiscoxBloodbath yes, its inextricably linked to the land and the Temple, 100%; calling it Zionist is still anachronistic tho and there are plenty of non-zionist Jews who would still celebrate Chanukah (think black hats far right more than anybody on the left)