Michi Main

The Main Girl
Smashing patriarchy
Resisting
Protective mom
Mothers Against Injustice Network

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 I don't doubt the seriousness of trauma,
as it has nearly ruined my life
It's just that I see how history operates.
Not sure if I can sit through a podcast about trauma
until I'm a little more healed
Thx again - maybe we should do a podcast!

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 :) Thx for the discussion
I still don't understand how my analysis is scientifically unsound, as I've been into economic data for 50 yrs & have a degree in history
I think you're over-estimating trauma & underestimating economics
But am willing to keep an open mind
Til next time

[Michi Main @michimain]

@AndrewCicchett1 @odvss @DrEmmaKatz That was my question too
My "acute" abuse started when I was pregnant
But he got me pregnant in a sneaky, non-consensual way, so was that really the first abuse?

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 Trauma fits as an influencing factor, or even the spark of inequality, but not a burning fire. There was no burning fire before they started trading women for goats - just a spark
But the cruelty & inequality wouldn't happen without the economic system
The spark woulda died out

[Michi Main @michimain]

The cost of hypervigilence
is exhaustion!

[Michi Main @michimain]

If I don't talk about my trauma, my PTSD, the therapy, the eating disorder
It's because my abuser still uses these things against me to harass me and in court
And I don't want to give him more fodder
Or more satisfaction to think how much I was damaged
Because he's a f*ing sadist

[Michi Main @michimain]

@Rox_Starseed Ikr!
Same here
That case made my menopausal mind very nervous

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 I now think that trauma could have been the spark and not just the commodification of women
But still think economics is the main driver
Wouldn't it be fun to do this on a panel discussion?

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 Well we can disagree
I think trauma influences our decisions
But economics influences more decisions
and may be based on security, not just greed
Either way,
they both play are role and are integral in the solutions to overcome inequality
So we both have a lot to do!

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 You've opened my eyes to the influence of trauma on our bad behavior & social inequality
But I still think that crap economics is the cause and the fuel of patriarchy
We have traumatized societies that are still egalitarian
We can disagree on this and explore it further sometime

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 There are too many cases when violence against women and opportunities for women are reduced or increased in countries that have changed their economic systems, like the post-Soviet countries for example.
Trauma influences inequality, but economics drives it
in my humble opinion

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 Trauma responses are serious, unnatural and f'd us up big-time and the new disfunction had to exist before the economic cruelty
& influences history as a pre-existing condition
But it's economic incentive that drives the cruelty
Most don't act on it, unless they are paid to

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 Yes
It's not innate
It's unnatural
and influences our behavior

[Michi Main @michimain]

@McClureShawn The word for "god" among the plains tribes means
"the great mystery"
The elders seem to indicate to me that we are just stupid 2-legged mammals that haven't grasped what "god" really is
and that maybe it's presumptuous to act like we do

[Michi Main @michimain]

@AndrewCicchett1 @assoc1counsell It wasn't just greed alone that drove economic inequality
I think people also made decisions on economic security in a developing system of limited choices
They went along with it, in other words, to feed their families

[Michi Main @michimain]

@AndrewCicchett1 The term "toxic relationship" implies that there are no perpetrators or that it's nobody's fault

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 I'm using the last 6,000 yrs of data of western civilization, not anecdotes
Not sure what you think is scientifically incorrect
My position: economics drives patriarchy
Men didn't have the social/political leverage to act on their psychopathy alone
They had economic incentive

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 I totally believe you
You're the professional
I never thought that psychopathy just happens
and didn't mean to suggest that.
It's serious and real.

[Michi Main @michimain]

@assoc1counsell @AndrewCicchett1 Economics is more than 1% of why/how we got patriarchy.
You've opened my eyes about the influence of emotional disfunction that sanctions the patriarchy & is a pre-existing condition that allows it, but I can't believe that it's the driving force.
Economics is the driving force.