@zaklito@evilAwk20000@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk n-word: reinforces an extremely prevalent, extant form of oppression
"zogslave": virtually unrecognized outside of extremely-online spaces, and only hypothetically reinforces a materially non-existent form of oppression.
I wonder why someone wouldn't care about the latter...
@zaklito@evilAwk20000@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk Genuinely wild to ascribe this to not wanting to go mask off when one of the two things you're comparing is so incomparably worse as though that dynamic is not driving treating the two differently. Come on.
@CharmarkeIb It's also like... With FD, the red-brown stuff is coming from inside the house. This is a guy that told people to vote for Kamala "Top Cop" Harris and fawned over Zohran "Billionaire Zionist Police Chief who marches with Ben Gvir" Mamdani.
@zaklito@squeezemegood@yakub9k@nBaMilkBoy@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk "you" is a Jewish term, and you know as well as I do there are tweets of BE saying it, so I address it. ZOG was neonazi in the 70s and saw a new resurgence recently bc of the Israel lobby, they're relatively disconnected.
@zaklito@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk So in order to show how bad it is to engage in bad faith you engage in bad faith?
This is not the best way to demonstrate your point.
You should just openly state what you mean and if they are bad faith then that's obvious, let them hang themselves by their own rope.
@zaklito@squeezemegood@yakub9k@nBaMilkBoy@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk "Zogslave" does nothing to normalize Nazi ideology nor is this a materially extent worry worth more concern than actually highlighting allegiance to Jewish supremacism during a Jewish supremacist genocide.
@zaklito@squeezemegood@yakub9k@nBaMilkBoy@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk I have encountered it a lot. It's used as a pejorative, aracial political insult.
You could maybe try to say is it is antisemitic, but 1) I don't care about antisemitism during a Jewish Supremacist genocide, 2) using a slur Jews use for non-Jews stretches credibility as bigotry
@zaklito@squeezemegood@yakub9k@nBaMilkBoy@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk (instead of being a political name to call anyone supportive of Israel. It's clear that anti-semitism fueled its creation in online fora, but you should care as much about antisemitism now as you would about anti-German sentiment in 1944)
@zaklito@squeezemegood@yakub9k@nBaMilkBoy@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk None of the sources actually promoting that conspiracy theory coin "zogslave." It's actually a non-existent phrase in those screeds and I have seen no evidence it is either actively used to mean specifically Black people nor that it arose in that context.
@zaklito@squeezemegood@yakub9k@nBaMilkBoy@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk This is like worrying about helping Norwegian Nationalists during 1943 because you called someone a Deutchslave bc far right Norse nationalists also are bigoted against Germans and believe in Nordic supremacy.
It's technically plausible but how is *this* the focus?
@zaklito@squeezemegood@yakub9k@nBaMilkBoy@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk First, this has virtually nothing to do with being anti-black.
Even ignoring that, this ostensible harm is dwarfed by the utility of pointing out fealty to Israel, an actually existing Nazi state actually currently engaged in genocide.
@zaklito@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk I mean, what, would you have preferred them immediately laugh at the idea that repurposing a slur used by Jews for non-Jews to belittle someone advancing Zionism is somehow anti-black?
@zaklito@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk If someone is disputing this, they can either assume you're referring to something wrong or specify to grant you the benefit of the doubt. Granting the benefit of the doubt is usually good faith, yeah.
@zaklito@LaithLKC@Sodomizelonmusk Why would you not just say "the tweet where he called someone a zogslave"?
This is what you're referring to, why hide it?