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@ettingermentum I understand why you're talking about this but please know that you've gone way past your understanding of this topic and are now in total nonsense territory.

[tilde @Misterbignest]

@Skipxbeat @DPearsonPHL Again, Haaland and Odegaard are children of rich families. We don't have any Haalands or Odegaards from our rich families.

[tilde @Misterbignest]

@Skipxbeat @DPearsonPHL I don't understand where the disconnect is. You say their pool is "a large portion of the population" while ours is "highly limited". Our pool is many times larger. It doesn't matter how big the non-pool population is.

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@Skipxbeat @DPearsonPHL Our pool is 4x larger than Norway. Our pool has got a lot of rich kids, but we don't even get any good players from those rich kids. Other countries do! Haaland and Odegaard are the sons of wealthy ex pros, they're better than any USMNT player ever. It's not a pool problem!

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@SrDezi @DPearsonPHL That's not my point. We are 60x larger than Norway. We have more kids getting over the paywall than they have kids, but we develop fewer good players. Their 2 best players are sons of ex pros. They would have gotten over our paywall, but we couldn't develop them.

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@Skipxbeat @DPearsonPHL That's my point though, our competitive pool is 2x larger but we don't even produce a Trossard, let alone a Doku, let alone a de Bruyne. The problem isn't pool size, it's development. DR Congo has a massive pool, they rely on French emigrants bc the development there is better.

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@Skipxbeat @DPearsonPHL Our talent pool could and should be bigger, but we are failing to develop that talent, and that's the real problem.

[tilde @Misterbignest]

@Skipxbeat @DPearsonPHL I don't think this is true. Belgium is ~12m people we are ~340m. Even though soccer is expensive and less popular here, our "talent pool" (kids ~10-13 playing seriously) is still larger. Yet they have Trossard and Tielemans, who each would be the best USMNT player ever.

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@DrizzyDraught Vini Jr is 5'9". Why even bring up NBA salaries? Why don't Kenyan marathoners become offensive linemen instead, they'd make more money?

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@RadachTBenji @DPearsonPHL Wow, two whole decades of "watching"! I didn't realize I was speaking with an expert!

[tilde @Misterbignest]

@FanSince09 @hip_bro Probably Leeds

[tilde @Misterbignest]

@RadachTBenji @DPearsonPHL Look at the Netherlands, Uruguay, etc these are tiny countries that are far ahead of us. The problem is not "number of people playing soccer" it is clearly quality of instruction. Norway has 2 world class players from 5m people. It's about development.

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@RadachTBenji @DPearsonPHL "Discovery" is talent development through coaching. Belgium only has 12m people. Even as our ~3rd sport and with pay to play, our talent pool is already larger than that!

[tilde @Misterbignest]

@awfulpeasant @DPearsonPHL You've failed to comprehend the argument. You're dismissed.

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@awfulpeasant @DPearsonPHL You're in a random thread talking about your unrelated, delusional grievance, please take it elsewhere

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@awfulpeasant @DPearsonPHL That's not what anybody is talking about. Casual sports or the school team are free/cheap everywhere. Pay to play refers to "serious" travel soccer, for people who aim to play at a higher level.

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@DPearsonPHL If you made the current infrastructure free to access, we would still suck.

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@DPearsonPHL I'm not saying pay to play is good, it's just not the problem. Nobody (rich or poor) in the US is getting adequate soccer training during the formative years that matter. We have more rich kids than Norway has kids, period, yet they have more world class players.

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@devahaz What nation? There's no nation here