@JawaanPiker@DontNukeAnyone This seems to be your read of it and not what… I will go ahead and say more fringe left wing contingent is saying. My read of BE and others in his particular camp is they want more… which I want more as well… but again we’re talking what’s the way 2 get there
And I don’t know
@hustlr_01@cyanide4957@DontNukeAnyone Also, I would say that DSA and demsoc people need to believe this is true… they need to believe they are doing that… otherwise the game falls apart and they become me. Disaffected communist unsure what to do to be the most useful and who doesn’t want to go to federal prison
@hustlr_01@cyanide4957@DontNukeAnyone This has been helpful tbh. I just am trying to understand where some communist / communist adjacent people are at on this stuff and unfortunately the “just start a third party” is not at all winning me over. Runs into some of the same (and an entirely new) set of problems
@cyanide4957@DontNukeAnyone So it’s still electoralism! So I don’t really get how BE can act like there’s some massive moral high ground he has in this debate. A revolution is not coming to America let’s be real. But also totally true that self id’d demsocs will take the loot of imperial plunder happily
@cyanide4957@DontNukeAnyone A meaningful third party… in the imperial core? At the reigns of… a fundamentally anti communist apparatus? Do you see what I’m saying. I’m not being flip I just mean… I see little difference between trying to drive DSA left and using Democrat ballots bc it’s literally easier
@DontNukeAnyone But you are still advocating for electoralism, no? I’m just gaming out what you are saying. You posture that your POV is superior…that’s fine. I just wonder if “make a third party” is really the thing… is it? That still ends with a “communist” in charge of what, exactly?