@pstAsiatech Do Chinese companies or govt give a f one way or the other? Feels like this is just to pump the stock of 2 companies while screwing most Americans.
@hsu_steve Are there periods of history where appealing to international norms/laws are effective, or are they still just superficial veneer? For example, Gandhi'a non-violent resistance movement seems to be an anomaly that would not have worked at any other time against any other power.
@alreadydawn I think this was the founding ethos behind Google in the 90s/2000s. Not sure if growth eventually meant they had to give up on some of the original mojo but something happened.
@KaiserKuo@pallaviaiyar He has poignant observations and seems like a journalist who lives up to the proclaimed ethos of the profession, but not sure his prescription of "more journalists" is the right answer. Decades of journalists in US/China hasn't resulted in better relations, if anything, worse.
@AngelicaOung Ah yes, the talk of "responsible stakeholder in the international system" was all the rage back in the 2000-2020's. How quaint. Hard to imagine now but people really believed it back then.
@AngelicaOung I think the main driving force behind support for war is whether or not a country truly believes it can win. History shows that even the stupidest of games will be played as long as the stupid prizes are believed to be "winnable", no matter how stupid the prize.
@AngelicaOung That's true. There was a desire for revenge then. Not so much anymore. But then revenge wasn't a factor in the Korean and Vietnam wars, and yet casualty tolerance was still high, which makes me skeptical that its much of a moderating force.
@hsu_steve Every time a Chinese open model comes out with impressive benchmarks, there are long comments that say these models are benchmaxxed but not representative of real-world use. In your actual experience working with them to solve real problems, is this the case?
@AngelicaOung@ezraklein@AmboRudd One topic that always comes up in the Chinese governance discourse in western media is the state's supposed obsession with maintaining legitimacy. I don't know if it's true or not, but I don't hear the same when discussing any other country, even the most unconventional/fringe.
@ruima This generation of Chinese would have the same sense of entitled exceptionalism if they had won ww2, cold war, and last 50yrs of unbridled superpower status.
@AngelicaOung I often have to manage the tantrums of my child, not to defeat her, but to prevent the family from descending into a chaotic, dysfunctional mess. She doesn't always see it this way.