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knows the difference between evidence and testimony

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ren claims that the twitter sexting was mutual and consensual. this was 10 days after the hotel room. ren also claims that she realised it was coercion right after it happened. so in ren's own timeline, her messages to zeal switched between "fawning > consensual > fawning"

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@a_alad3509 i was just talking to one, and they blocked me because im on an alt and not my main, not willing to hear the evidence 🤣 if they want to defend their narrative they need to use real evidence

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@RileyUnexpected imagine asking me a question and blocking me before i can reply 🤣

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@Cade_o_Lec @a_alad3509 thank you for this. a lot of people, even on both sides, fail to realize this. zeal's word is supported by the evidence. the entire argument is just "ren's word VS evidence" based on her own account, not proof

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@RileyUnexpected @AphoticGoblin @YY_sssimp ren said no. he put his boxers back on.

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@RileyUnexpected if you are talking about this, then ren says he "put them back on immediately" as in, put his boxers back on

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@RileyUnexpected @AphoticGoblin @YY_sssimp you are saying he admitted to sexually assulting her. no he did not. this is false. please learn how to read.

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@McRennex14151 take this down before you look like even more of a clown
both of these are disproven

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@McRennex14151 disproven what he has to say and he will not respond to me about it anymore. be careful what you consider to be a perfect summary

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@Megaspecialkid @sonnetsideup ren suddenly claiming that it was coercion does not make it coercion. ren has not proven that it was non consensual at the time. ren SAYS it, but does not PROVE it. theres a difference between evidence and "trust me bro"

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@PurpleSigh192 @Unknowstal51882 @EM0B0Y_K1SS3R - and ren said "it hurts" the first time, then zeal stopped, and then she wanted him to continue. she was also helping zeal guiding him to finger her.
https://t.co/7JPKTmcTwg
just because there wasnt a loud "yes i consent" at the time, doesnt mean there wasnt consent

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@PurpleSigh192 @Unknowstal51882 @EM0B0Y_K1SS3R "zeal literally confirmed he never got verbal consent to french kiss ren"
firstly get your facts right, ren asked for the kiss first.
in 99% of consensual sexual encounters, they dont go "YES I CONSENT" its usually one thing leading to another until asked to stop (cont)

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@CanMakiStepOnMe @NYX_J1NX here's another thing about the marks. ren herself calls them hickeys. notice ren's framing, in the dms they are hickeys, in the doc they are marks that have a bruised appearance

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@NYX_J1NX ren's entire allegation has no evidence, it's all just "take my word for it" and i'd love your personal analysis on disproving what zeal has to say

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@cigfordelilah @YY_sssimp he explains nothing, no proof, just based on 'character analysis' from things that are disproven or have no proof for. by this logic we can use ren's extremely erratic and violent behaviour and her many inconsistencies to do the same thing but against ren.

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@RileyUnexpected @AphoticGoblin @YY_sssimp 1) he admitted to sex, not sexual assult. 2 very different things.
2) you have no proof that it was suicide bait. if a suicide attempt fails that does not mean it was bait.

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@YY_sssimp so you are using an analysis of public character to determine who is lying? ren has so many inconsistencies and erratic/hostile behaviour clearly visible. may i remind you that he did not impersonate as his mother. please address the contents of both documents directly.

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@YY_sssimp so you've read both sides and completely disregard what he has to say because in your opinion you think he impersonated as his mother or faked his suicide attempt? address what is in the document, and be fair when understanding that ren has no proof either, just her word.

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@YY_sssimp please respond with what you think about this, im open to hearing. dont ignore me like everyone else i've replied to. ty

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@YY_sssimp 1) he did not impersonate his parent.
2) failed suicide attempt does not mean suicide baiting. by that logic would you call ren's failed suicide attempt also suicide baiting?
3) guilt tripping is your opinion because you believe he is lying. you need to prove this first.

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