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Cindy Crawford's first Playboy shoot paid her $0. She chose that. Ten years later she posed again, got paid, and had to describe the photos to Revlon over the phone.

In the video below, the 1998 Howard Stern interview. Stern assumes Playboy paid her a fortune. Her answer: the first time, basically nothing. She traded the money for control of the photos.

The girl from DeKalb, Illinois. The face of Revlon. One of the original supermodels.

1988. She is 22. Every agent she has tells her not to do Playboy. Her one condition: control of the images and the right to kill the story if she doesn't like it. She shoots it in Hawaii with Herb Ritts.

1991. She marries Richard Gere. Four years later they divorce.

1998. Playboy comes back. This time, she tells Stern, they give her both: the money and the control.

But these photos show more than the first time. And she has a Revlon contract. So she calls Revlon and spells it out. "You have to say certain words."

Someone tries to retouch it out. She says she ended up looking like a Barbie doll. It stays in.

October 1998. The issue hits stands. She has just married Rande Gerber.

In the same interview, she says rich men have offered her money on trips to places like Dubai. And she admits her Planet Hollywood stock "isn't doing so well."

October 1999. Planet Hollywood files for bankruptcy, $359 million in debt.

$0 for the first shoot. A paycheck for the second. A retouch even Revlon couldn't make work.

Was turning down Playboy's money genius, or did Cindy Crawford leave a fortune on the table?

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Adult film star Veronica Avluv was asked what she likes about rough play. Her answer wasn’t about pain. It was about the one thing she doesn’t get in real life: not being in charge.

She says she’s now a switch, but for many years, way before porn, she sought out being submissive. There’s one rule for her: “I don’t do fear.” Her thing, she says, is “being obedient and being really eager.” She loves intensity, though she doesn’t need it all the time.

Then she describes what happens when it works. Certain things trigger her body into an adrenaline rush, and she goes into what’s called subspace. “I like going into that place and just almost losing all concept of time and space and just being a sensation.” She calls it “freeing” and “a relief.”

The reason, she explains, is simple. For people who are in charge of everything all the time, being allowed to not be in charge is the point.

It doesn’t always work. She says she doesn’t like being caned. It doesn’t give her that sensation, and “it makes me go, oh, get away from me.” The moment it happens, she says, she goes right out of subspace.

Is it easier to let go when you’re the one who’s always in control?

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Actress Denise Richards admitted something on The Howard Stern Show that she says she’d never talked about publicly: her breasts are not natural.

Asked by the host if they were real, she answered: “Natural on the outside. On the inside, they are not.” She said she figured she wasn’t going to lie, because then she’d “never hear the end of it.”

She had them done a long time ago, she says, and she’s had a few operations. Her advice: “Young girls, don’t do it.”

The story starts at 19, when she moved to LA. Her roommate had just had hers done and “had the best boobs ever.” Denise says she was “flat as a board,” and thought: “Wow, you can just buy them.” So, she says, “stupidly,” she had them done.

The problem, she explains, was that they were “way too big” for her body. They didn’t suit her. In the end it took three operations to get them the way she wanted.

She says she was young and “should have researched better.” All she wanted was to go from an A cup to something like a B. Doctors, she says, assume that because you’re an actress, you want big breasts.

What would you tell a 19-year-old who wants to do the same?

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Porn performer Cherie DeVille was about to shoot a BDSM scene as the sub. Would she ever want to be the dominant one? “I think it would be fun theater.” But it wouldn’t give her what submission does.

She says her first experience came about three years ago, on set. She loved it, and she kept searching out BDSM shoots as a sub. It has even spilled into her private life, where she’s been entertaining more Dom/sub-type play with her partners.

“I really feel like I get a lot of personal satisfaction as a sub. It’s a ton of fun for me, and it’s very, very relaxing.”

Being a Dom, she says, would be like a lot of the other roles she does in adult film: fun and entertaining, but they “wouldn’t fulfill as many of the internal motivations I have as this stuff.”

Is giving up control the relaxing part, or the point?

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Porn performer Aura Jensen was about to shoot her first on-screen group scene for Kink. Before the cameras rolled, the director opened with one line: “This is your fantasy, and we want to make it safe for you.”

She says it was the first thing the crew went over. “If at any point there is something you don’t like or you want to stop for any reason, we have safe words.”

The main one is “red.” It means stop, for any reason: if she needs to take a breather, if something is uncomfortable, or if she wants to do something differently.

There’s also a backup, in case her mouth is busy. She shakes her head and makes the sound “uh-uh.” She says she’d been taught that fail-safe and was also told how to reach production if something needed to change.

The shoot was her request, she says, and she’s “so excited.” She laughs and adds: “I hope my husband doesn’t see this.”

Does saying the rules out loud on camera make the scene feel safer, or just more honest?

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Porn performer Misha Brooks was about to shoot a rough bondage scene. Before the cameras rolled, the director explained what happens if it gets too much: “That’s the name of the game. That’s how we stay safe around here, that’s how we stay in business.”

The plan, he says, is to “bring some pain and bring some pleasure” and balance it out, always “to your limits.” Then come the safe words. “Red” means “it’s too much, stop.” If she can speak, she says it, looks at the camera and breaks character, so everyone knows for sure. “Emergency” is for when something is “a little bit off” in the middle of an action. He says he’ll know right away to move somewhere else, slow down or finish up.

If she has a gag in her mouth, there’s a head signal instead: shake it back and forth three times and say okay. If she’s doing it vigorously, he adds, “obviously that’s not hot.”

Then he asks if there’s anything she hasn’t tried that she’d like to. Her honest answer: she’d have to know the possibilities first. “We’ll talk about it afterwards.”

The part that stays with you is his explanation of why. The safe words have “nothing to do with your ability,” he says. It’s about “respecting yourself and us respecting you, and respecting your limits, so nobody gets put in a situation where they don’t want to come back.” And using one doesn’t mean the whole scene starts over.

Do safe words make rough scenes possible, or just honest?

[Kagee @ogkageai]

A porn actress says she once had sex with 15 men in a single scene.

But her stories from before porn were even crazier.

She says she used to get so drunk at parties that she'd hook up with multiple guys in one night.
Sometimes she couldn't even remember who she'd slept with.
In the video below, she talks about a 15-man scene, her wild party days, and a strip club manager she believes she had sex with in exchange for cocaine.

The 15-man scene was filmed for Dogfart.
She says the company picked the guys.
She didn't choose them herself.

There wasn't much direction.
She knew what was supposed to happen.
The cameras started rolling, and the men took turns.
But she'd never actually filmed a gangbang.
Only a blowbang.
Then she started talking about her younger days.

She says she'd get wasted at parties.
Hook up with one guy.
Then another.
Then another.
None of them knew about the others.
She admitted she regularly drank until she blacked out.
Sometimes she woke up without remembering what happened the night before.

One story involved a manager at a strip club.
Her friend later told her she'd had sex with him in a VIP booth.
She barely remembered the encounter.

"I think I fucked him for coke."

She couldn't confirm exactly what happened.
She remembered being there, but not having sex with him.
Her friend was apparently horrified.
She wasn't even surprised.
"I need to stop drinking so much."
She also recalled being around 19 when a man at a house party offered her $200 to go upstairs.

She assumed he was paying for sex.
So they had sex.

Eight years later, he contacted her and explained he'd only wanted a lap dance.
She'd misunderstood the entire arrangement.

Now she talks about those years with a mixture of amusement and disbelief.

But the strangest part isn't the number of men.
It's that she describes repeatedly losing her memory while intoxicated, then finding out what happened from other people.

How many of those nights would she remember differently if she'd been sober?

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Bella Blu says she fucked SIX different guys in just 24 hours. One hookup happened at 3 AM inside a closet, another guy was waiting at her house when she got home, and two more came through TikTok DMs. None of the six knew about the others.

Bella is an OnlyFans creator who told Adam22 and Lena The Plug about what she described as an unexpectedly horny day that turned into six separate hookups.

In the video below, Bella explains how she went from a late-night encounter in Arizona to sleeping with multiple guys after driving back to California. Wait until you hear what happened with the TikToker who barely lasted a second.

It started when Bella traveled to Arizona for what she described as a Botox appointment. At around 3 AM, she hooked up with a guy inside a closet because she was staying at a family house and needed to keep things private. She went to sleep, woke up, drove back to California, and found another guy already waiting at her home.

After the second guy left, another TikToker messaged her asking to hang out. She told him they could smoke and chill, without planning anything sexual. They ended up having sex, and he stayed overnight. As soon as he left, another TikTok guy came over. That encounter was so short that Bella wasn't even sure whether to count it. She said he finished almost immediately.

When Adam22 asked how she found all these guys, Bella explained that she browses TikTok and slides into their DMs. Two of the six were men she'd already slept with, while four were new. She insisted the encounters weren't organized as a challenge and said only one had actually been planned.

Adam22 then argued that a man attempting the same thing would have a much harder time. He said he could spend an entire day messaging women on TikTok and still struggle to arrange six hookups. Bella disagreed, suggesting he could probably manage it.

She also admitted she'd be interested in filming a gangbang, although she hadn't done one at the time of the interview.

Six guys in 24 hours, four new partners, and a dating strategy built around TikTok DMs.

Could a man realistically pull off the same thing, or is the dating game completely different for women?

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Porn performer Avery Jane used to sell her guide to preparing for anal sex. Now she gives it away for free.

A few years ago, Avery typed up a long PowerPoint on how to prepare. She sold it to fans, with a discounted rate for other performers and sex workers.

She says some people would “chew my head off” for what she does now. When someone asks, she just sends it.

“Do I really want to financially gatekeep information that might help someone go from having a potentially traumatic anal experience to a safe, healthy one?”

The guide came out of what she sees in the industry. She says a lot of new performers are “kind of thrown to the wolves”: they’re booked for their first anal scene and have almost no idea what to do. “No one’s really helping them.”

Asked what the community can do to help newcomers learn to advocate for themselves, she says everyone’s path is different, and many performers have no agent and book their first scene on their own.

Her idea is one central organization, like Pineapple Support or the Cupcake Girls, that gives every new performer a resource packet. Since everyone goes through a testing center, that could be the point of contact. The packet would cover consent, what to expect on a porn set, red flags, basic hygiene and what to bring in a shoot bag.

Adult Time director Bree Mills says the company has a public Performer Center on its site, with guides on what to expect on set and how to run a consent meeting, and plans more videos.

Avery also wants more experienced performers to offer mentorship, so newcomers can DM someone with a question.

It comes down to the community, she says: whether you want to be part of it, and how much you want to help it.

She spent years selling information that could keep a stranger safe. Now she’s decided safety shouldn’t sit behind a paywall.

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Porn star Natasha Nice turned 18 in July and was filming her first porno by September. She found an agent through SexyJobs, dropped her college plans, and started shooting almost every day. Sixteen years later, she discovered that getting millions of views on Pornhub could be worth more than another studio paycheck.

She was still in high school when she started planning her exit.

"17 and 3/4. I was like, okay, I'm packing my boxes."

Her parents had no idea what she was planning.

She'd already gotten in trouble for sending nude pictures to guys she liked. Including a guy from church.

But nobody knew she was Googling how to become a porn star.

Then she found SexyJobs.

An agent contacted her. She filmed a solo scene, made good money, and decided college could wait.

"Okay, bye Santa Monica College."

She moved to Woodland Hills and started shooting almost every day.

"Right out of high school, everybody books you."

Then she spent four years away from porn.

When she returned in 2016, the industry had changed. Studios were still important, but OnlyFans was becoming a serious business.

She started webcamming and uploading content.

One day, she opened OnlyFans and found a huge chunk of money waiting.

"Oh, maybe there's something to this."

She started putting more energy into her own content.
But she still loved shooting for big studios.
Not because she wanted to be treated like a queen.

"I'm just there to do my job. And then I do really like sex."

The real reason was traffic.

Big studios posted her clips on Pornhub. Those clips improved her rankings. Higher rankings brought more paying customers to OnlyFans and webcam shows.

She said getting onto Pornhub's front page could make her webcam sales jump by 1.5 to 2 times.

She'd once been in the top 30 and checked her ranking constantly. Now she was trying to make OnlyFans her number one priority.

Sixteen years after finding a porn agent on Google, she was still chasing the same thing.

Money.

Except now she understood that the real business wasn't just getting fucked on camera.

It was making sure the people watching knew where to pay her.

Make me the ending less abruptMake me the opening hook sharper

[Kagee @ogkageai]

Porn star Octavia Red grew up in a strict Christian household where being gay was considered a sin. Her mother checked her purity ring. She was homeschooled, barely allowed to watch television, and taught to suppress her sexuality. Years later, she entered the porn industry to discover what she actually liked. Now she admits she's attracted to transgender women, loves watching gay porn, and still has sexual fantasies she hasn't fulfilled.

In the interview below, she sits down with adult film director Bree Mills and reveals how dramatically her life changed after leaving her religious upbringing behind.

She grew up in a large religious family. No television. No radio. Mostly Christian music, church, and homeschooling. She described herself as an emo tomboy who wore black, dyed her hair, and rejected traditional femininity.

Sex was something nobody discussed. Being gay meant going to hell. Her mother once checked whether she was still wearing her purity ring. She grew up believing a woman's purpose was to provide pleasure for a man.

Then she started questioning everything.

When COVID hit, she lost her job and started taking lingerie photos. An agent approached her about adult films. She spent nearly a year deciding whether to enter the industry.

She filmed two scenes, quit for a year, worked on a cannabis farm, and returned to a casino job. But she was miserable. She said working in porn had actually made her happy, so she went back.

During the podcast, Bree Mills asked her a question most people would assume a porn star could answer immediately.

Was there still a sexual fantasy she hadn't experienced?

Octavia admitted she'd explored many fantasies but still wanted to perform with transgender women. She revealed she'd never been with a transgender woman, despite feeling particularly attracted to them.

She also admitted she loves watching gay porn featuring men. Participating in a scene involving two male performers had fulfilled one of her biggest fantasies.

But the most unexpected confession wasn't about her fantasies.

It was about her personal sex life.

She admitted that filming too many scenes sometimes left her with no desire to have sex with her partner. Separating professional sex from personal intimacy had become surprisingly difficult.

She even wondered whether she had become more comfortable having sex in front of a camera than in private.

A woman raised to believe sexuality was shameful had built an entire career around it. Yet even after years in the industry, she was still discovering what she actually wanted.

Does working in porn help people understand their sexuality, or does turning intimacy into a profession eventually change how they experience it?

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