John Boyd

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[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@alifarhat79 Why are you pushing an outright lie?

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@TheThomF @Margaretstanef1 @AdamKinzinger Typos and autocorrects happen. Smile and move on.

I can explain the “geological” situation to you but I can’t understand it for you.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@Angry_Staffer What staff are you on?

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@AdamKinzinger You're a pathological liar, Adam.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@Margaretstanef1 @AdamKinzinger

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@TheThomF @Margaretstanef1 @AdamKinzinger Tell me you know nothing about that part of the world without actually telling me.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

Sure thing.

1. Hormuz/Energy: Strait reopening, with Saudis and others already built pipelines and workarounds during the mess. Iran’s chokehold threat is permanently weaker, with new options around the strait. In short, they spent all their capital and still failed.
Payback: Stable prices, billions saved over years, minimal or no threat regardless what regime is in power.

2. Military/Proxies: Decimated their missiles, navy, DIB, and funding lines. Proxies are weakened by 80-90%.
Payback: Fewer attacks on our people and shipping, no conventional umbrella to protect nuclear ambitions/R&D.

3. Nuclear: They’re negotiating from a beaten position. Simple, no leverage. They would be starting over if they ever wanted to try nukes again.
Payback: Real limits on their ambitions, not the old cash-for-time BS. They have zero leverage.

4. Russia and China Axis: China/Russia left them out to dry, allowed them to be rolled without so much as a public outcry. Going forward, one piece of that axis likely permanently removed from the chessboard.
Payback: Major indirect wins while we focus on the Pacific. Russia does Russia things against a stronger NATO while we compete with China.

5. Regional Stuff: Stronger allies (Qatar, Saudi, Bahrain, USA, etc), weaker proxies. The gulf states’ thorn was Iran, a friendly Iran brings a stable region.
Payback: Less drama, less US babysitting, less U.S. blood and treasure needed over generations.

But yeah, Trump surrendered — they totally won… 🤣

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@BRUCEJOEY @Margaretstanef1 @AdamKinzinger Is there ever a day that he doesn’t show up crying on your feed? Again, if nothing else he’s remarkably consistent.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@thestinkeye @Beardvet It’s painful to watch but hilarious at the same time.

Left and right… a decade later people still don’t get it.

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@TBRagsdale1 @Angry_Staffer

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

“Working” - highly subjective, ignorant at best. Hilariously obtuse when you look at the facts of JCPOA.

“Killing…” - collateral death in conflict is as old as war. Your framing is disingenuous, at best.

“War of choice” - hilariously subjective, DNC talking point at best.

“Regional power…world power…” - this one almost takes the cake. If Iran got what they wanted out of “closing” the straight they would not have agreed to a deal. Also, 200 million barrels would not have moved through it in the last 30 days, unscathed. The fact is the straight was not closed, no matter how many times the media said it was, and Iran does not control it, not matter what their state media puts out. You should probably stop believing them.

“Massive financial impact” - while there was an impact, it will barely be a blip on the western world’s quality of life, especially long term.

“Strained relationships” - opinionated talking point AT BEST. NATO partners and allies have MANY in leadership who respect and support what POTUS is doing. Stop listening to the news. NATO must stand on their own, the world is now bipolar.

Your turn.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@TBRagsdale1 @Angry_Staffer If you notice, the” fuck ups” from 2021-2024 I articulated are fact-based, quantifiable.

Your inputs are entirely subjective and opinion-based.

Have a great day.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

Can you articulate what “fuck up after another fuck up” we have? Curious what you consider a fuck up.

I consider the withdrawal of Afghanistan a “fuck up,” the southern border from 2021-2024 a “fuck up,” mandating unconstitutional Covid shots/policies across government agencies a “fuck up,” 300,000+ children coming across the border without actual guardians lost into society with a vast majority of unaccounted for from 2021 to 2024 likely with lives destroyed forever by the sex trade a “fuck up”, 9% + inflation a “fuck up”… I’m character limited now.

Not whataboutism, just curious what your standard is for a “fuck up“ because I think it might be different than mine.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@TBRagsdale1 @Angry_Staffer That’s the wrong question.

Just sit back and watch. You’re wrong. Fortunately we have a lot of people that understand the situation way better than you do working hard to make it happen. I hope you enjoy the results.

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Also, it’s not horseshit at all. I like how you completely ignored the historical reference to post war punitive, reconstruction, and post war greater good reconstruction.

I’m not MAGA and I didn’t lose my shit over anything. But fundamentally Obama giving a couple billion to Iran that was going to still lead to a nuclear armed Iran was asinine.

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It is absolutely a false dichotomy. The fact that you don’t understand that tells me I am wasting my time responding, but I will anyway…

The US isn’t ‘giving’ Iran $300B in cash from US taxpayers. It’s a proposed international reconstruction/investment fund the US would help facilitate as part of a negotiated ceasefire/deal to end active fighting, reopen Hormuz, and stabilize the region.

This isn’t new or charity to an enemy. After defeating Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in WWII, the US poured billions into the Marshall Plan (Europe) and Japan’s occupation/reconstruction. Not ‘gifts’ to the defeated regimes, but strategic investments to rebuild, prevent future wars, create markets for US goods, and counter Soviet influence. Both succeeded spectacularly — Europe and Japan became economic powerhouses and close partners.

Same logic here: end the bleeding (wars cost billions daily), secure US interests, and turn a shattered adversary into something less hostile. You can support veterans’ funding (separate appropriations) and smart diplomacy that stops creating more casualties and economic pain.

Zero-sum slogans based on false dichotomies sold to shallow-minded Americans ignore how wars actually end and are prevented in the future (see Weimar Republic).

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@TBRagsdale1 @Angry_Staffer False dichotomy. A really ignorant, lazy false dichotomy.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@ltcolonelpat @Angry_Staffer Totally to prove a point… totally. Well done.

[John Boyd @oldsonx]

@rmk1900s @Angry_Staffer Is that a serious question?