Before you decide this is a flex, ask yourself why this was written in English.
Next, ask why the English name Palestine comes to us through the Latin Palaestina, then ask when and why the Romans gave the region that name in the first place.
Finally, ask what the land was called before the Roman’s conquered it
@KhalilJeries Just the opposite. You ethnically cleansed 100% of Jerusalem‘s Jewish population from the Jewish quarter. And then you expelled 800,000 Jews from middle Eastern lands.
@maddyburnhope@aradboaz You’re conflating two things
“With the aim of denying the existence of Israel” is a supplementary condition, not a definition of terrorism
You stated “in practice, any antagonism.” Antagonism would meet the condition but not terrorism as the bill defines, so it wouldn’t apply
@transleytanked Love how it's just commonly disliked / overplayed songs. How about some real hot takes or inspiration. Continue being basic and virtue signaling to your mutuals 😜
and the forthcoming consequences, were known to them. They were stopped by the military after a single day but the accepted definition of Genocide neither incorporate the success of the attempt or the duration for which it occured for within it.
Is it disputed that the October 7th incursion involved the "specific intent" to destroy the national group of Israelis, seeing as all Israelis they came across were executed? The only individuals "spared" were kidnapped, as the inevitability of their failure,
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@WinsAndTies@Mish_K_ You skipped 1948-1967. It was occupied by the British, then by Jordan and Egypt for ~20 years. During this time, there was no movement for a new state. Once Israel obtained control of the territories (after being attacked) the movement began as a way to dismantle the Jewish state
@FrederickL56807@travelingisrae1 If it was in response to specific “atrocities” and not to a Jewish state being established, why wait until the very day the British mandate ceased and the Jewish state declared independence?
May 14th, Israel declares independence. May 15th, six Arab nations begin the war.
FACTS
The Palestinian conundrum.
We have been lead to believe that the Palestinians are indigenous to the area they claim . If so then the following easy questions can be answered.
What wars battles or conflicts did the indigenous Palestinians engage in against the Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman invasions in defence of their homeland and who were their leaders during these conflicts ?
What was the currency of the indigenous Palestinians during these invasions spanning some 600 years ?
What monuments ( and in what locations ) standing or destroyed were constructed by the indigenous Palestinians during this period ?
Which itinerant scribe wrote of the race , people , nationality, ethnicity, tribe or group called Palestinian during this period?
No contested references to DNA please - just straight forward verification
I have largely remained silent in public since January 1 because I believe criticism should be constructive and focused. But this post about the Nakba is deeply disturbing, not only because of its one sided and dishonest characterization of history, but also because it attempts to delegitimize Israel as a state even before 1967.
You cannot have it both ways. You cannot argue that the “settlements”, which began after 1967 following Israel’s victory in a war against neighboring states, are the root cause of the conflict, condemn them relentlessly, and justify marches through Jewish neighborhoods in New York over so called “illegal” land sales in the West Bank, while simultaneously condemning the very founding of the State of Israel itself through a one sided narrative built on distortion and falsehoods.
It is also worth noting that while thousands of Arabs lived within Israel between 1948 and 1967, Jews were expelled from areas captured by invading Arab armies from neighboring countries. Those expelled included Jews whose families had legally owned and purchased land for hundreds of years.
Take, for example, the Tzemach synagogue in Jerusalem. In 1847, more than a hundred years earlier, followers of Chabad Lubavitch established and purchased the synagogue in Jerusalem’s Old City. During the 1948 war, the Old City fell under Jordanian control. The Jewish population was expelled, and Jews were denied access to Jerusalem, including the Tzemach Tzedek synagogue.
I really do not want to get too deep into the history because that is not my main point here. There can be disagreements and different perspectives about what happened and to whom, but the focus should be on achieving a long term peace in Israel and the region.
The tweet’s one sided narrative deepens division instead of advancing peace, coexistence, and understanding, and it should never have been posted by the mayor of New York City.
Les colons ne sont pas toujours ceux que vous croyez : le cas bosniaque
Hier, le maire de New York City a présenté Inea Bushnaq, folkloriste new-yorkaise « d’origine palestinienne », comme une « survivante de la Nakba », ayant donc été chassée de Jérusalem en 1948 par les Israéliens.
Le problème, c’est que l’histoire réelle est plus différente de que ce maire islamiste de gauche veut nous raconter. Et surtout moins conforme au récit militant qui cherche uniquement à attiser la haine d’Israël.
L’on apprend via @_j0sh_a_ que Inea Bushnaq descend d’une famille musulmane bosniaque ayant immigré vers la Syrie ottomane — dont la Palestine — à la fin du XIXe siècle, après le recul de l’Empire ottoman dans les Balkans.
Sa famille ne faisait donc pas partie d’une population arabe locale implantée depuis des siècles dans la région. Loin de là.
Plus encore : lorsque sa famille quitte la Palestine en 1948, elle vit à Tulkarm, non loin de Jérusalem, une ville restée sous contrôle arabe et jordanien après la guerre.
Aucune force israélienne n’y est entrée durant le conflit. Il n’y a pas eu d’expulsion par les forces israéliennes ou sionistes.
La famille serait partie vers l’Angleterre - de son propre gré, et d’une zone sous contrôle arabe jordanien - où le père disposait déjà de contacts et d’opportunités professionnelles.
Donc non Inea Bushnaq n’a jamais été chassée ni victime de la Nakba.
Présenter ce cas comme une expulsion directe par les forces israéliennes relève de la falsification historique démographique et politique.
C’est le discours que les islamistes et antisemites ainsi que les marchands de la cause palestinienne ont toujours tenu pour asseoir la haine des Juifs dans le monde arabo-musulman.
Mais au-delà du cas d’Inea Bushnaq, cette affaire rappelle une réalité souvent occultée :
à la fin de la période ottomane puis sous le mandat britannique, la région a connu d’importants mouvements migratoires musulmans venus de différentes parties de l’Empire et du monde arabe.
Des familles - mais aussi des combattants - venues d’Égypte, de Syrie, du Liban, des Balkans, d’Albanie, du Caucase ou encore d’Afrique du Nord se sont installées dans la région pour différentes raisons :
- opportunités économiques liées au développement du pays,
- administration ottomane,
- commerce,
- agriculture,
- et pour certains entre eux, des combattants, venus pour mobilisation armée contre la présence des Juifs.
Alors au nom de quoi et pourquoi ces populations étrangères à ce coin, installées tardivement, seraient-elles automatiquement considérées comme des « autochtones absolus », ce qu’on appelle aujourd’hui les Palestiniens, tandis que les Juifs — pourtant liés historiquement, religieusement, linguistiquement et culturellement à cette terre depuis des millénaires — seraient systématiquement décrits comme des « colons étrangers » ?
Comme je le dis souvent : les colons ne sont pas toujours ceux que vous croyez.