@SirRobArtII1 Try entermittent fasting this picture is from 2013 @ 5β5 I went from 197 to 148 in 3 months in a calorie defecit using intermittent fasting 1 cardio day a week and 2-3 days strength training. 1 gallon of water a day. Till this day i fast and love it i eat like shit and stay lean