Saint P. J. Tibayan

Saint in Jesus | Member/Pastor @ | @Shepherd_LA | Bib Theo Doctorate | 🇺🇸🇵🇭Filipino-American | *Reforming* Catholic

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

Shepherd LA Lunch fellowship today with some faithful LA pastors.

Pray for their churches and for more healthy churches and resourced pastors for the spread of the gospel and the glory of Christ Jesus in LA🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

#ShepherdLA

[Whoz Meech @WhozMEECH]

Yes, we can. When Kobe was in his peak he was far above LeBron. He was winning championships and dominating on both ends.

Lebron was great yes, but throwing out overall career stats without context is just dumb.

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

#Respect.

kobe connection to jalen brunson: https://t.co/lu8PZovEIv

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

@pastorryansrq @RealPatSawyer @jdgreear @BaptistPress Thanks, Ryan! I appreciate the dialogue, brother. And I pray God blesses your pastoral ministry.

I'm game to keep thinking about it with you if you are. (No worries if not)

So, baptism into nothing? Or something else?

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

Congrats to the New York Knicks and Jalen Brunson. I applaud your tenacity, work ethic, confidence, leadership, and taking $100m less to sign other players to make your team better. I didn't believe you could do it when you first came to NY but I was cheering you on this Finals!

[NBA @NBA]

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 53 YEARS, THE KNICKS ARE NBA CHAMPIONS 🏆

New York defeats San Antonio 4-1 in the NBA Finals, capturing their third championship in franchise history!

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

@pastorryansrq @RealPatSawyer @jdgreear @BaptistPress Does the Bible teach baptism into ________ (anything)? Or nothing?

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https://t.co/Hb08DF2ImY

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@RealPatSawyer @jdgreear @BaptistPress May the Lord bless your life and ministry as you share life and share Jesus with and through the Summit Church family, brother!

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

@RealPatSawyer @jdgreear @BaptistPress Thanks, Pat!

While I appreciate the church strongly encouraging the newly baptized to begin the membership process, the church disconnecting the decision to baptize from the baptized person's decision to join separates what God designed to be kept together.

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

Thanks, Pat!

You shed important light.

While I appreciate the church strongly encouraging the newly baptized to begin the membership process, the church disconnecting the decision to baptize from the baptized person's decision to join separates what God designed to be together.

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

@RealPatSawyer @jdgreear @BaptistPress Thanks, Pat!

While I appreciate the church strongly encouraging the newly baptized to begin the membership process, the church disconnecting the decision to baptize from the baptized person's decision to join separates what God designed to be kept together.

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

J.D., thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Does the Summit Church take all those spontaneously baptized into church membership and accountability?

In my understanding the church's public affirmation in baptism should *normally* be tied to congregational accountability/discipline.

[J.D. Greear @jdgreear]

These two things—spontaneous baptism and rigorous baptismal examination—do not have to be opposed. Summit Church regularly does spontaneous baptisms; we also require baptismal candidates to go through a comprehensive interview with a trained counselor on the spot before they can get in the tub. We end up turning a number of people way—or at least slowing them down to make sure they properly understand what they’re doing. I’m so glad we do it that way—many people come to genuine faith in Christ during those on the spot interviews. It’s arguably our church’s most effective evangelistic strategy.

My bigger concern here is that this approach, while well-intended, offers a pragmatic solution to a perceived problem rather than relying on the biblical model, which is ironic given that it comes from our friends at 9 Marks.

The simple fact, as others have pointed out, is that EVERY single baptism we see in the New Testament is spontaneous. Every. Single. One. Without exception. Of course, the concern to not give false assurance is legitimate and pastorally wise. The question is whether we will pursue a biblical solution to this challenge or a pragmatic one… If we want to follow the biblical model, we will use spontaneous baptism calls AND instill a process that seeks to validate whether a profession of faith is real.

Will we make mistakes? Of course. I’m pretty sure it’s unavoidable. In Acts 2 Peter gave an invitation for a spontaneous baptism and 3000 responded. The total membership of the church at that point was 120, so with 3000 respondees that means each believer had to counsel no less than 25 people that day. That’s >6 candidates per person every hour for 4 hours straight. You can’t tell me a few people didn’t slip into the baptismal that day that “weren’t ready to be baptized” — people like Simon the sorcerer (Acts 8), who had to be rebuked post-baptism and called again to repentance.

We work especially hard to vet confessions of faith, but there’s simply no way to avoid all mistakes. And any conscientious pastor will tell you that happens, no matter how long you take in the baptism catechumen process.

I appreciate the concern raised here, but let’s embrace the sufficiency of Scripture and practice baptism the biblical way!

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

@jdgreear @BaptistPress J.D., thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Does the Summit Church take all those spontaneously baptized into church membership and accountability?

In my understanding the church's public affirmation in baptism should normally be tied to congregational accountability/discipline.

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

HAPPY ASCENSION THURSDAY! To honor Christ, here are 2 stories of people meeting Jesus (my mom’s and my dad’s):
https://t.co/KXNZNqHmdn

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

We all read the Bible. May God help us interpret it more faithfully. Here's help: https://t.co/22QqUYKLMy

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

conscious punishment; the righteous, in their glorified bodies, into everlasting life in the new creation.

(Matt. 25:46; John 5:22, 27-29; Acts 17:31; Rom. 2:6-11; 2 Cor. 5:10; 2 Thess.1:7-10; 2 Tim. 4:8; Rev. 14:9-11; 21:1-8)

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

The Resurrection
The bodies of men after death return to dust, but their spirits return immediately to God—the righteous to rest with him, the wicked to be reserved under darkness to the judgment. The bodies of all the dead, both just and . . . https://t.co/93SunHL3Z0

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

unjust, will be raised. (John 5:28-29; 1 Cor 15:12-28; 2 Cor 5:1-10; Phil 1:23, 1 Thess 4:13-17)

The Judgment God has appointed a day wherein he will judge the world by Jesus Christ when everyone shall receive according to his deeds. The wicked shall go into everlasting & ...

[Russell Moore @drmoore]

That one can excuse or ignore this while claiming to be “pro-life” is a sign of a seared conscience. God have mercy on us all.

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

From my perspective it always comes back to racialization & political partisanship

If it's merely women pastors & 1 Timothy 2:12-15 then I'm for obeying that in our local churches https://t.co/iZBNelXBro. I don't believe that is the exclusive or primary issue driving the energy.

[Megan Basham @megbasham]

Really really happy to hear this. Can I just say, the main problem with the SBC is that most churches don’t send messengers and often, even of those that do, the messengers often don’t participate in the vote.

I get it. It’s ridiculous that they won’t allow remote voting for churches that contribute to the cooperative program. Of course that allows the establishment who would like to continue things like DEI appointments and playing footsies with female pastors to get their people in the room. And they DO vote.

But if you want change, you have to show up. If you are a Southern Baptist Church, send messengers. Make this the year.

If there’s a way to do a fundraiser to help small churches that don’t have the money to attend, that’s certainly something I’d be interested in helping with.

The system is rotten, but don’t let NAMB decide the direction of the SBC.

[Saint P. J. Tibayan @pjtibayan]

I feel this.

(I'm also a Laker and Kobe fan, so my bias must be acknowledged)

[Turn @CousinTurn]

Bam Adebayo is now the architect of perhaps the most shameless, disgusting performance in sports history

83 points. 2nd most all time

20/43 from the field
7/22 from 3
43 FREE THROWS??

up 30 vs the worst team itl and kept himself in. kept gunning. challenged flops

despicable

[Carson Breber @Carsobi]

Bam just had the grossest historic game ever.

He became the first ever player to score 70 while shooting under 50% on FGs (20/43).

He attempted 43 free throws and made 36, both the most ever.

He played 42 minutes & his team intentionally fouled to prolong a 30-point blowout.