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KIRBY: I told them: How ‘Bout Them Fuckin’ Dawgs?

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@waldenpod There was a guy that hung around the YouTube spaces that "made" this "argument." Im pretty sure he had massive mental issues so it probably isn't his paper but hard to imagine that paper is much better.

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@robmcallen9565 @paulogia0 The enitre argument is based on the number of copies of documents.

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@InspiringPhilos @paulogia0 Do the number of copies of new testament documents confirm Jesus's existence though? Im not a mythicist but this is still a bad argument. It also ignores all the non documentary evidence we have for the other figures named.

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@robmcallen9565 @paulogia0 The source documents give evidence. The number of copies is irrelevant.

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@robmcallen9565 @paulogia0 Thats the point. The mere number of copies doesn't give evidence of the people depicted within the copies. Im not a mythicist. Its just a bad argument. Another good example, there were 150K copies of this newspaper printed. That doesn't give good evidence for the event.

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@robmcallen9565 @paulogia0 Yes, just as the number of copies of Sherlock Holmes is not evidence of his existence, neither are the number of copies of new testament documents evidence that Jesus existed. You understand why its a dumb argument.

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@xeliotrop @SeikoStarks @SirSicCrusader Wild jump that and this isn't a scientific claim.

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@WriterJohnBuck @pjjj311 @farmingandJesus Maybe it is evidence of that. That seems like a different argument than what is in the clip above. Ethan says "if he sacrificed..then would that disqualify him as a prophet?" So maybe there is more but I'm reacting to the clip.

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@WriterJohnBuck @pjjj311 @farmingandJesus But more to the point, person X did Y bad thing therefore they are disqualified to be a prophet seems like a faulty inference to me. Maybe there's more to the argument than that but at face value that seems to disqualify Paul.

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@WriterJohnBuck @pjjj311 @farmingandJesus I'm an atheist so I don't think either were appointed. It also strikes me as odd that the reason he was appointed a prophet was to stop him from persecuting Christians. I would figure it was more for the evangelism he would do.

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@WriterJohnBuck @pjjj311 @farmingandJesus Certainly not before he was chosen as a prophet. It strikes me as a silly argument from Ethan as to why Smith couldn't be a prophet.

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@farmingandJesus Paul was persecuting and killing Christians. Does that disqualify him as a prophet?

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@WriterJohnBuck @pjjj311 @farmingandJesus I'll say no.

Was Paul justified in persecuting and killing Christians?

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@RobRohrs @LatFilosof @silliesttwtuser Im not sure what you're saying here.

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@RobRohrs @LatFilosof @silliesttwtuser Id also like to know what you mean by blind faith.

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@RobRohrs @LatFilosof @silliesttwtuser But if we use the sense of life that I mean and biologists mean, namely biological life, biological life comes from non biological life. Neither view (naturalistic or theistic abiogenesis) is empirically "proven" or demonstrated.

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@RobRohrs @LatFilosof @silliesttwtuser The point is, given your definition, atheists can say life comes from life. I think its a bad definition. I think its specifically formulated to make it so God is also alive to fit the beliefs you have already.

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@RobRohrs @LatFilosof @silliesttwtuser I don't define life that way. I was using your definition for sake of argument. Im not sure what you mean by blind faith commitment here.

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@RobRohrs @LatFilosof @silliesttwtuser And the naturalistic response is that the particles, through naturalistic processes, have the capacity to arrange into atoms into molecules into proteins etc. So on this (flawed) definition of life, I can say life comes from life (fundamental particles).

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@RobRohrs @LatFilosof @silliesttwtuser Oh, ok. We've never observed it. Fair enough. But God doesn't arrange himself in an extremely intricate pattern that then arranges a copy of that pattern.... it seems that objection goes against God being life.