You open a verse in one app.
Then you leave it — Safari for the article, another app for the sermon, a podcast app for the episode that actually unpacks the passage.
By the time you get back, the text isn’t in front of you anymore.
A New Name, A Long Line (Ezra 7:1)
The opening of Ezra 7 marks a turning point in the story. Time has passed, a new king sits on the Persian throne, and a new figure steps onto the scene:… (via @TheBibleRecap)
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Romans 11:24 calls it “their own olive tree” (Gentiles are wild branches grafted into it). And if Paul only meant individual Jews can convert, why call it a “mystery” (Rom 11:25)? The entire early church was Jewish! Plus, Christ came to confirm the promises to the patriarchs (Rom 15:8).
@FreeBeeCee@Keekeebooks If Romans 11:28 is about the “one new man,” why does Paul call them enemies of the gospel?
And yes, it is a warning to believers, specifically warning Gentile Christians NOT to be arrogant toward the natural branches (v. 18–20). Calling them “archaeological” is that exact sin.
Yeah. I’m thinking I accidentally replied to the wrong person. 😩
On the theology though: citing Romans 9:6 without finishing the argument in Romans 11 misses Paul’s entire point. Yes, personal salvation is by faith alone, but Paul concludes in Romans 11:1–2 and 11:28–29 that God has not rejected ethnic Israel and that His calling on them remains irrevocable. The remnant obtaining mercy doesn't mean God broke His promises to the rest.
Everyone in this thread or whatever you call it is tying themselves into pretzels to avoid one clear truth: at the end of the day, the Jews are still God’s chosen covenant people.
Paul asked if God rejected His people: “By no means!” (Rom 11:1). God’s gifts and calling are irrevocable (Rom 11:29). He doesn't break His oaths.
Wow… I bet you’re fun at parties… 😬
Jesus literally commanded: “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Matthew 5:44). He said the second greatest commandment in the entire Law is: “Love your neighbor as yourself” (Mark 12:31). If your Christianity requires you to find loopholes to get out of loving human beings, you have completely missed the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Furthermore, you just assumed that anyone opposing hatred must be Jewish, and immediately devolved into calling human beings “creatures.” I am a Christian who actually reads the New Testament.
Dehumanizing people with venomous slurs while claiming to defend the faith proves you are not following Christ
@FreeBeeCee@Keekeebooks Cite the chapter and verse where God says the Abrahamic Covenant is revoked or finished.
You cannot, because it does not exist. Genesis 17:7 calls it an "everlasting covenant," and Galatians 3:17 says nothing can annul it. Chapter and verse….?
I think you just went full Hyper-Preterist to avoid God’s promises. If the harvest ended, tares were burned, and death was swallowed up in victory in 70 AD, why are cemeteries still filling up and evil still exists?
Claiming death is defeated while Christians still die is absurd.
Have a good night man. I need to get some sleep on the east coast. Much love!
@AltChristianMan@Keekeebooks You just explained why Paul was physically stopped, not why the world was reached. If he wanted to reach Spain and got stuck in house arrest, Spain remained unreached. A missionary getting locked in chains means the mission was interrupted, not finished. Think it through………
Colossians 2:14 says the record of our debt was nailed to the cross, not God’s covenant. Galatians 3:17 says the law cannot do away with the Abrahamic promise. Paul said regarding election, Israel is still beloved because God’s calling is irrevocable in Rom 11:28–29. Got to read it.
@AltChristianMan@Keekeebooks Colossians 1:6 literally uses continuous present tense: the Gospel is bearing fruit and growing. That describes an ongoing launch, not a completed harvest.
If the Gentile mission was finished before 70 AD, why was Paul in Romans 15 still trying to reach Spain?
Nobody said every single Gentile… Nice strawman though. If the "fullness of the Gentiles" closed in 70 AD, why did God spend the next 2,000 years taking the Gospel to the ends of the earth? Plus, Paul said that fullness triggers Israel’s salvation in Rom 11:25-26, not their slaughter.
Read Hebrews 8:8 and a couple verses down. God explicitly makes the New Covenant "with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah." It replaces the Mosaic system at Sinai, not the Abrahamic covenant. The New Covenant fulfills God’s promises to Israel, it doesn't erase their existence.
@AltChristianMan@Keekeebooks Confusing the Temple with God’s covenant is a basic category error. The 70 AD destruction ended the Levitical system, not the Abrahamic covenant Galatians 3:17. Paul said Israel’s hardening lasts until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in Romans 11:25
Has our fullness come in?
@bob452620612848@Keekeebooks Paul directly refutes you: "What advantage is there in being a Jew? Much! They were entrusted with the very words of God"Romans 3:1–2. Jesus and every Apostle were Jewish. Ranting about "bloodhounds" and ignoring Romans 11 is not Christian, it is just unhinged hatred.
Jesus was confronting leaders plotting His execution - John 8:40, not an ethnicity. In John 4:22 He said, "Salvation is from the Jews." Jesus also called Peter "Satan", does that make disciples the devil? Every Apostle was Jewish. Weaponizing John 8:44 is pure biblical illiteracy.
@Davis_Carlton84@Keekeebooks Gentiles were grafted in, not promoted to replace the tree. Romans 11:18 literally warns: "Do not boast... You do not support the root, the root supports you." God called His covenant with Abraham everlasting. If God broke that oath, your promises aren't safe either.
That creates a false dichotomy that the New Testament explicitly rejects. While personal salvation comes through faith, Scripture never dissolves God’s distinct, covenantal relationship with ethnic Israel.
Paul directly addressed this in Romans 9:3–4 by speaking specifically of his kinsmen "according to the flesh," confirming that to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, and the promises. He drove the point home in Romans 11:28–29: regarding election, physical Israel remains "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable."
God did not cancel His physical promises to Abraham in order to establish spiritual ones. In Genesis 17:7, God declared His covenant with Abraham’s physical offspring an "everlasting covenant."
If God can revoke an eternal oath made to a specific lineage, then no promise He makes to the Church is secure either.