@HugoatedChavez@SamuraiApology@gamergate2077 I have nothing wrong with them but would you rather the western movement remain composed of art students and literature fanatics or let the ONE facet they dont immediately dismiss take root within the subset of workers who drive most of the economys input?
Theres potential here
@HugoatedChavez@SamuraiApology@gamergate2077 I mean, yeah. It takes a disenfranchised labor aristocracy and gatekept lower bourgeois to make most revolutions. China gave 2 stars to the petty and national bourgeoisie (insert Mussolini here) They’re literally high-skilled proletarians being led to Marx,not even class traitors
Conversations on here have gotten significantly better just 24 hours after a bunch of racists were exposed and all subsequently deactivated.
Anyone notice the lack of glow on their feeds today?
@Rudo1518568@bordigaparty And tbh when I say cybernetics I mean Cockshott not Land or even CCRU. Ofc I’ve gone down adderall induced recursion-schizophrenia but what CS person hasn’t.
Much more interested in an economy freed from capital accumulation not dictated by a command structure but an organic one
@Rudo1518568@bordigaparty I miss Fisher :,)
Seriously tho too much to type here. Obvi not in a net-agreeable fashion, he went insane with state diagrams as have most snake oil salesmen who try their own product do
But he has some insights I see as valuable. IIRC OG CCRU was not acc->cybr-neofeudalism
@Rudo1518568@bordigaparty Maybe, but their innovations are freeing us from labor as much as them from us
(until they begin to ration tokens)
High skill labor will be disenfranchised,and said labor will have access to productive forces without having to spend capital
[Last capitalist sells rope quote here]
@rem8ana@SarinOnTheWorld History could literally end tomorrow if Putin said ‘fuck it we ball’ or some bio terrorist gets groovy with a local ai model or an agentic swarm reaches the energy grid so I’d say we’re pretty damn close
@PDDOPN I’ve gotta head to work for a bit, coming back to this later when I can
Something something Mao’s org not his philosophy blah blah so I don’t forget
I’ll se you in a few 👋
@PDDOPN We should listen to the independent socialist orgs in these conflicts and support only those. Iran for example kills their communists (quite famously).We can be against our own war killing their proletarians, but for THAT reason, not because Iran is inherently moral due to resist
@PDDOPN Mao is a good example tho. He allied with the nationalists,USA(at times)etc, but always remained independent. Thats literally all the text is saying, it would be like calling Chiang anti-imperialist and thus deserving of uncritical wstern communist support while he killed the CPC
@PDDOPN Oh ofc. But they would’ve garnered more support+funding+arms if they didn’t attempt the historically difficult project of socialism at the same time as surviving. National liberation is historically progressive. After that’s achieved, rev against their own bourgeois becomes so
@PDDOPN Actually I would appreciate some sources here.
Not as some “gotcha” I’m just genuinely curious and would love to get back to this more informed
@PDDOPN Of course, but it’s to say the best thing we can do with our privelage of not being f*cking bombed every 2 seconds is organize, sabotage, and work. doesn’t mean you DONT help, you simply shouldnt do it from any given communist platform. Do it personally, carries more weight nyway