Doesn't it seem like we're still in the MSDOS/command line age of agents and chatbots? Who's going to come up with the perfect GUI? What shape will it be?
@lilyraynyc I find the best approach is to stick to explaining your company's approaches and solutions to the problem space. Become an expert on the topic but don't sit there and stress your brand in every post. You'll be cited more often and in a favored light
@AdventyxAI Couldn't agree more—structuring our own posts this way has already landed us in more AI responses. Pro tip: Start every section with a bold question to hook the model. Who's tried it?
the irony is the 300-word doc would rank if Google still rewarded what it used to. instead the SERP rewards the 2,000-word regurgitation because somebody followed a content brief from 2019. commodity AI content is eating its own tail — and the LLMs are starting to ignore it too. the brands actually getting cited right now are the ones publishing tight, specific, non-commodity stuff.
The correlation tracks with what we're seeing across our client base too. Sites with healthy organic rankings almost always show up stronger in ChatGPT and Perplexity citations — same authority signals, different surface.
The sites that break the pattern are usually ones gaming one side: thin AI content that gets cited but doesn't rank, or stale authority sites that rank but never get pulled into LLM answers. Both are fixable, and the fix is the same fundamentals work either way.
This is the leverage story nobody's pricing in yet. The same SEO experiment that used to need a senior dev sprint now runs as a custom agent in the background. We've productized a chunk of our research stack into internal tooling and the margin difference is real — humans stay on strategy, agents handle the grunt work 24/7
@jakezward he midwit razor is doing real work here. every one of those bullets was in a 2012 SEO checklist. the surface changed (LLM answers instead of blue links), the fundamentals didn't. anyone selling AEO as a separate discipline is mostly selling a rebrand
@lilyraynyc When every user sees a different result, averages lie. You have to sample across personas, intents, and surfaces or you're flying blind on what's actually working.
@mhp_guy The audience is where they are, not where you wish they were. Retirees home at 2pm watching cable, motivated sellers among them, and ad inventory priced like nobody wants it. That's channel-market fit.
Besides a 10x ROAS on that is awesome
@heyshrutimishra The top tier isn't getting paid for impressions, they're getting paid because they can show a buyer exactly which pieces of content drove which pipeline.
@0xjesss@shannholmberg@sirsamjenks@EspressioAI The interesting second-order effect: as more advertisers run campaigns through Claude and Codex, the LLMs themselves become an even bigger surface for brand discovery.
Managing ads inside an LLM and being recommended by that same LLM are about to be the same conversation.
GTM engineering makes a far bigger difference than almost anything else in startups — but the startups pulling ahead right now are the ones productizing it. Custom AI agents running deliverables 24/7, humans on strategy and relationships. That's where the leverage compounds.
We've built our whole model around hybrid human + AI execution and the margins look very different than the old playbook. Distribution is the moat; productized infra is how you actually defend it.
because "optimized" usually means "copied." Same hooks, same offers, same landing page templates everyone else is running.
We see it constantly in search too — perfectly "optimized" content that's totally commoditized, so Google ignores it and the LLMs won't cite it either.
Frameworks don't beat a real point of view. Fundamentals first. Always.
Couldn't agree more. The brands chasing volume with commoditized AI content are quietly bleeding visibility in both Google and the LLMs.
The play we're running: humans own the perspective and lived experience, AI agents handle the scale and distribution. That split is where non-commodity content actually gets produced at agency velocity — and the GEO lift builds traditional SEO right alongside it.
Hybrid human + AI execution > hype every time.
Appreciate you putting this together, @lilyraynyc. Core update post-mortems are still the single best teacher in this space.
What we keep seeing across client accounts: the sites that held or gained through March were the same ones already winning LLM citations. Authority, clarity, non-commodity content — the fundamentals don't move, the surface area does.
Good SEO is good GEO. Always has been.
@jakezward 100%. We chased the LLMs.txt + .md rabbit hole on a couple test
properties last year thinking it was the unlock. Zero lift in citations across
ChatGPT or Perplexity. The pages that actually get quoted are the ones with real
authority and non-commodity depth. Good SEO is good GEO.
@neilpatel AI Shines brightest as an idea explorer, not just a finisher. At @AdventyxAI we built just that. A platform for marketers to generate ideas early to enable aligned content with what users are asking LLMs.
#aimarketing#contentcreation
Stop optimizing for "AI search" as if it's one thing. ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google AI each pull from different sources and recommend different brands. Treating them the same is the fastest way to waste budget. https://t.co/vCSVCIXPiS