@harrishanafite St.Augustine, sermon 191:
The maker of man, he was made man, so that the director of the stars might be a babe at the breast; that bread might be hungry, and the fountain thirsty; that the light might sleep, and the way be weary from a journey; that the truth might be accused…
@StevesRawMind@JeshPeep@Momotorocc@FabTheWoker Even in that example, its not the same act that’s being committed both times. It is the situation that changes, not the morality or the nature of good or evil
@StevesRawMind@JeshPeep@Momotorocc@FabTheWoker You’re right in saying there is a subjective aspect to it, at the end of the day everyone chooses a or b What we’re saying is, that choice cannot be the BASIS of DEFINING good or bad, simply because the nature of those two terms will lose all meaning if it can be changed anytime
@StevesRawMind@Momotorocc@FabTheWoker@JeshPeep Because it doesn’t work that way. If tomorrow the sides were switched and the majority of society decided rape was good and punished those who didn’t rape, in that framework, rape is neither good or bad, its just subjective, which is. A terrible way to look at things
@kimisaac39@USCCB 1) Go to a mass; half the liturgy is literally reading the Bible
2) its a hat
3) a show of respect to any person, especially the successor of Peter is not wrong? Who do you think gave you the Bible?
@tattered_bible@poperespecter1 Oh shut up 😭 people like you give the orthodox church such a terrible rep. Christianity is not some militant desert sect. Worry about your own soul before you worry about burning mosques down
@ZoethHowland@Jclearfield2@5SolasMissy Also for a sin to be grave, culpability requires awareness that the sin will separate you from God, and doing it anyway. Even in saying a lie, we reject God and turn away from his infinite goodness.
@ZoethHowland@Jclearfield2@5SolasMissy Exactly! But the idea that God has forgiven all our sins, even ones to be committed, would lead to the whole ticket punched thing. Instead we work out our salvation cooperating with the grace of God, and that includes acknowledgement and repentance from our sins.
@ZoethHowland@Jclearfield2@5SolasMissy What does repentance entail, if not contrition, acknowledgement and turning away from sin? But if you say Christ has forgiven all sins, even those of the future, wouldn’t it be illogical to repent, when you’re already redeemed?
@jnutoday@stranger_on_x_@IndoKatholic@SevakMasih It is not a greater good to treat humanity like insignificant robots, he treats us instead as beloved children, in rising from our fall we can come to know him in a greater fullness and understanding.
@jnutoday@stranger_on_x_@IndoKatholic@SevakMasih Well, that would be unjust, to simply snap his fingers and make all this suffering and misery meaningless. He instead uses it to bring out an even greater good, than what would have been achieved from treating the world like a computer program.
@stranger_on_x_@jnutoday@IndoKatholic “No one takes my life from me, but I lay it down of my own accord” And he allowed himself to be humbled, even to the point of death because of his burning love for you and me
@jnutoday@stranger_on_x_@IndoKatholic I urge you instead to begin with Christ, understanding who he was. It is profound that God still chooses to work in and through imperfect humans because of his love for us, and the desire for our redemption. God bless.
@jnutoday@stranger_on_x_@IndoKatholic Yes that’s what i said in my first line. Human beings are not perfect, and if we were, there’d be no need of redemption through Christ.
To be a bit more specific, human beings within the church have made mistakes. The Church has never taught a conflict with science.