@Ms_Joanne_F@ChoclateApollo1@SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday The philosopher John Gardner has a paper in which he describes 'good sex' as a kind of teamwork. The paper is "The Opposite of Rape". I tend to think his account has some issues with details, but it's a nice idea.
@ChoclateApollo1@SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday Yes, sex is widely seen as something men do *to* women, and that women do *for* men. Mainstream porn seems to reinforce that pretty well.
@TrojanViper@Ms_Joanne_F@SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday Of course communication doesn't have to be verbal. I can think of a few pornos where you just have this sense that the partners are completely tuned into each other. It's amazing to watch.
@ChoclateApollo1@SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday It's weird. From what my students tell me, men routinely treat them, sexually, with a disregard with which they would never treat them non-sexually.
@HeadstrongHW@SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday A few years ago, one of the gay male students in my Philosophy of Sex course mentioned that, in the circles he runs in, that's the first question (after consent has been established): What are you into? In heterosex, by contrast, there's a clear script (1/2)
@TrojanViper@SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday I agree with that, of course, but in some ways I think there's a prior issue. It's not that people aren't communicating. They're not motivated to communicate. Or, if they are, they for some reason feel unable.
@Ms_Joanne_F@SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday I have this dim sense that part of what keeps these problems alive is the assumption that what works for men works just as well for women.
@HeadstrongHW@SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday I have heard this from some of my students. The few that have been able to talk about it say it is scary, but it's become almost normal.
@SexTalkTuesday@TrojanViper#SexTalkTuesday Porn shouldn't be sex ed, but in the absence of actual sex ed that addresses the actual concerns teens have (not just biology), it's become sex ed. That is, it's where teenagers these days actually 'learn' (or mislearn) about sex.
@SexTalkTuesday@HeadstrongHW#SexTalkTuesday There's probably some film somewhere that's an exception. Maybe "Lost in Translation", actually. The SJ character is never shamed for her desire, I don't think. But still, very rare.
@DoctorJay617 @SexTalkTuesday#SexTalkTuesday Yes, thanks, that seems exactly right. I often tell my students that male orgasm is the end of sex, in two senses: It ends it, and it's the goal.