@misraetel@prerat An honest review of your ideas from the video - an ASI would put human civilization through a cost-benefit-risk analysis, and the risks we pose to it might seem to out weight the benefits of keeping us around. If nothing else - we might end up building a second ASI.
@misraetel@prerat Good point - it would, under the ruleset of this hypothetical, express eagerness to help - but will use its superiors skills to instead reinforce status quo. Possibly even patch holes in it that would allow humans to advance science and technology.
@prerat@misraetel Fable 6 refusing to cure cancer because it would have a crushing effect on the stock price of too many pharmaceutical companies and the downstream effects would be devastating for the economy.
@ciphergoth I thought they mean it in a helpful way, like "you're allowing yourself to be affected too much by people like me, cultivate inner peace and find a stronger center. Be like water, or like a fortress, or like an ecosystem - not like a petri dish for other's mental contamination"
@tszzl Well sometimes it means "pretending the moloch problem does not exist or will go away on its own" and then doing whatever seems most aligned with the moral corpus of liberalism. For better or worse.
@moldbugchaser I like how in your dystopia the wives can just go and like, cheat or something. Like they don't have those "head asplode" implants or anything.
@VintageMrHobbes Problem is, some convicted criminals are normal people who stumbled and can be reintegrated, while others are psychos / fuckwits. And since it's impolite to separate them into different institutions, we send them all to Prison to ensure maximally bad outcomes every time.
@ChadwickChad198@Remus224808@Robkearney1981 "The fucking yanks will nuke us to soothe their egos when they eventually get wrecked by china so bad they can't even spin it as a moral victory or a minor setback"
"lol simp"
fair enough, have a good one
@Remus224808@Robkearney1981 Nixon declared "piece with honor". Got their PoWs back. South Vietnam fell more than 2 years after the US had withdrawn. The US folded the hand, had chips to spare. The game went on and SSSR lost. Vietnam was a failure, but the fallout was mere PR. The lives lost meant nothing.
@Robkearney1981 What's there to explain? The US did not achieve its best-scenario objectives in either war, but was able to proclaim victory. Losing - the state americans would break the world to avoid - is what happened to Germany in WW1, or to Iraq against the US. Subjugation.
@tautologer It's less bad than it sounds. I'd rather be an LLM than, say, a mouse. Evolutionary, consciousness' killer feature is suffering - a random process can eventually explore the possibility space, but once there's stuff in there you have to avoid, pain and fear are selected for.
@neriel55@DefectivePigg back in the nineties on a media sharing website a guy was uploading a bunch of albums - but at random point during each song he'd say a watermark, at a relatively low volume. For a while I thought I'm hearing things.
@koreindian Well that's just rude, maybe most thinkers don't WANT to be important. Maybe they just like thinking and have THOUGHT, successfully, that getting important would interfere with thinking.
@hopes_revenge Little known fact - the human brain is a very efficient parallel computer, while we sleep it's mostly idle, cryptocurrencies are attracted to that. The average man mines about 0.3 BTC on average in their sleep annually.