Ryan Peter

Writer, author & musician. Write about arts, culture, theology, journalism, tech. Viva humanity!

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@Protestia Fascinates me that so many guys who get into so much theology don't question their ecclesiology. Observing the SBC from afar (kind of forced to, as so many guys here on X/Twitter seem to be a part of it), it sounds crazy to me how the SBC seems to function.

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle Agreed!
Thanks for the convo! I can't spend any more time on it, I'm chasing a deadline! Have a great day, and blessings!

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle This is why I said in the beginning that there is "more than just utilitarianism" to consider. Utilitarianism has been our dominant ethical system for a long time, but I think it's reaching its limits. A.I. is going to force us to rethink our ethical realities, sooner or later.

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle Furthermore, it would be interesting to take your argument and overlay it over labor. Should labor be charged for? Is labor valuable at all? Is it not merely an extension of behaviour, of "patterns"?

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle It will de-democratize art and monopolize it around the tech industry.
It will disempower artists who cannot own their work.
Of course, if you want to break it all down to merely "patterns" then your argument is sound. But the patterns have meaning.

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle No, I am able to categorize between a non-sentient machine, a corporate entity (that owns it), and a human being.
Of course the LLM didn't steal anything, it cannot make moral decisions. Human beings make moral decisions. Human beings run companies.

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle I'll hazard a guess as to why you refuse to deal with this issue, and that may be because you already bought into the software piracy mindset sometime ago. Most guys I've spoken to about this already pirate their media, so they don't see a problem.

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle Because you're not engaging with the arguments people make about this, but are trying to hand wave it off.
LLM's can't 'steal' anything. They are not sentient.
But tech corporations can. And that's what they've done.

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle So you have a non sentient machine owned by corporations who sucked up everyone's hard work into the machine without anyone's consent and without reimbursing anyone, so it could replicate derivatives of that work at scale that they could charge those same people for. No problem?

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle So is A.I. sentient?

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle No they haven't, many lawsuits still ongoing, and many more to come. But you are pretending as if corruption does not exist. "Not being clamped down on" is not a sign of whether something is ethical or not.

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle Who is the "we"?

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle The A.I. didn't do anything, because it isn't sentient. However, corporations stole people's work. And they continue to do so.

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle "Let's not bother building an ethical society, because bad things are going to happen anyway." ?

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle Talking about tropes, this answer right here is a massive one. We all want to improve society, surely? You've seen the meme, right? https://t.co/eLjtV4hd5Q
I don't buy into this fatalism. I want Star Trek for a future, not Blade Runner. So I remain an idealist.

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@mbird12 Expect more of this as the real cost of this tech becomes clear. Best not to become dependent on it.

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@danwhitejr It would be interesting to see how much SBC leaders are linked to the publishing and media world that most American Christians tend to access. They're probably over-represented. I tend to get the same vibe from my feed as you do.

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@BenjiGameDev Is the A.I. in the other room owned by a corporate company looking to exploit the output at scale?

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@PawnDriver @michaelwhittle Yes, of course ethics are relevant. They'll always be. How could they not be?

Of course there is an end game: corporations who are accountable to us, and human-centered tech that works for us.

Also, I don't buy into the fatalism you're advocating for here.