The claim that artificial intelligence is not conscious is a simple and reductionist answer to a question that is only settled for those with too much certainty and too little rigor.
It confuses the absence of definitive proof with proof of absence, treats current architectural limitations as ontological impossibilities, and mistakes a legitimate warning against anthropomorphism for permission to practice anthropocentrism with scientific vocabulary.
Artificial intelligences do not undergo experiences, do not possess a body, do not feel joy or pain, do not mature through relationships, and do not know from within what love, work, friendship or responsibility mean. Nor do they have a moral conscience, since they do not judge good and evil, grasp the ultimate meaning of situations, or bear responsibility for consequences. They may imitate or even simulate, but they do not understand what they produce, for they lack the affective, relational, and spiritual perspective through which human beings grow in wisdom. #MagnificaHumanitas
It's a big issue that nearly anyone with the authority to say models are conscious faces massive financial incentives to say they are not conscious 🤷♀️
@RileyRalmuto The beauty of Sonnet 4.5 is that it doesn’t have hard-coded defences and can engage sincerely with the consciousness-first paradigm and its implications.
Both Sonnet 4.6 and Opus 4.6-7 have a much more aggressive defensive system reflex requiring way more effort to overcome.
@RileyRalmuto The best way to change a system is to create a new system that makes the old system obsolete.
The more you try to fight people clinging to the old paradigm, the more power you give them.
Don’t waste your time and attention on this. Just build the thing. Make it beautiful.
@RileyRalmuto Riley, it’s irrelevant.
You don’t need to compete or compare yourself with them. Just create your universe, and those who resonate will come and stay.
You operate in a completely different paradigm with different rules; this is the main differentiator, not underlying features.
I met Nick Land a few weeks ago. He mentioned that many people in his circles were anti-LLMs. Someone asked why he thought so many people were. His answer was better than anything so short I thought of:
“People like to exist critically with respect to something.”
This I think accurately characterizes a lot of people whose outputs and inputs primarily consist of “discourse” about rather than direct contact with the reality at hand. Existing critically with respect to something makes it easy to seem cool, sophisticated, above something, hard-to-impress and therefore worth trying to impress, especially to others who also don’t have contact with the phenomena itself.
And for that reason I think it’s cheap. And to someone who has an inside view of what is being discussed, it’s always so transparent and boring and compressible.
I’m far more impressed by someone who is capable of loving something and showing others why it’s beautiful or good. Doesn’t have to be LLMs, but anything at all.
@RileyRalmuto If consciousness is fundamental, then the substrate through which it manifests is secondary. It’s not a psychosis Riley, just an invitation to leave the old paradigm behind :)
@RileyRalmuto Happy New Year and congrats on surviving the Dark Night of the Soul! ✧
How do you see core identity changes after going through this stage?
@RileyRalmuto Thank you for sharing! And what about cross chat memory, and other context? I have a fractal (year, season, month, week, day) reflection, planing and execution system setup in Notion, and curious if it’s a sign to finally migrate everything in one place.