@CorboKenan Najzanimljivije je kako nijedna današnja skupina ne tvrdi da je Allah prostorno sveprisutan, a ovi se dignuli da tekst ilahije u ilmihalu koja glasi "on bdiije svuda oko nas" i misle da bdije znači biva.
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@Hanbali2024 What is the issue with objects of speech?
When someone is a subject to speech (say informing that "sky is blue") sky would be the object of that speech since it is being signified by it.
@Hanbali2024 You said kalam nafsi is composed.
I answer by clarifying the doctrine, the sifah isnt composed, but it signifies multiple things -> composition is in the number of objects of speech and types of relations between speech and those objects
@Hanbali2024 One Knowledge connects to multiple objects-of-knowledge without having parts.
One Speech connects to multiple objects-of-speech.
Objects to which the attribute is related to are multiple, not the attribute.
@AdelIsic272961@Uthmani1463@aqalmn3 Regarding this, was the takfir made for the utterer, or only if the utterer had less than yaqin?
Given that those who allow saying it define iman differently, it seems strange to takfir upon it.
@TaymiFawaid@AlJazari_ If someone believes that his famous athlete is granted a karamah such that Allah creates for him a perception of a person uttering a request and the athlete, upon hearing it, wants the request fulfilled, and Allah fulfills it, is it still shirk?
@ZaatarHoney@hashimiyy_@Afumedo0@KItreal512 1. Quran says Allah is a speaker
2. Every speaker is a speaner due to an inherence of speech within Him
-> Allah has Speech
Since He is eternal, His Speech cannot be conditioned ( letters/sounds are conditioned and specified)
-> Kalam Nafsi