Sander Van de Cruys

Like most psychologists I like people, in theory.

[Sander Van de Cruys @sandervdc]

💡 Thrilled to say that our new paper, ‘Insight in the conspiracist’s mind’, is finally out in Personality and Social Psychology Review.

With stellar co-authors @JoBervoets @stephen_gadsby @DavidGijbelsUA @KPoels
See below for a thread.

https://t.co/Egjuwu9azL

[Yi-Lun Jheng @yilunchengtw]

📢New publication!
Our research on strategies to correct vaccine misinformation on social media🧬📱is out now in @SciReports !
🔗 https://t.co/7YuEvAq3ys

[Yi-Lun Jheng @yilunchengtw]

@SciReports 🙌Huge thanks to my supportive co-authors: @sandervdc , Larissa De Brabandere, @KirstenMaertens & @KPoels !
🤗Please share with anyone interested in #HealthComm, #Misinformation, #ScienceCommunication, or #VaccineResearch!

[Sander Van de Cruys @sandervdc]

https://t.co/LPSQy8bW8Q

[Sander Van de Cruys @sandervdc]

New post on the seductions of AI conversations: Cold humans and Warm machines. Link below.

[Dan Goodman @neuralreckoning]

How come grant funding decisions are so biased and random given that reviewers & panel are trying their best to do the right thing? There's just no signal to detect. You can't predict what science will be important without doing it. All you can get is noise and unconscious bias.

[Sander Van de Cruys @sandervdc]

@danwilliamsphil @Lucidly_Elias @stephen_gadsby @RealFunkhouser You seem to equate 'Bayesian' with 'truth-seeking'. But it's not, it's coherence-seeking, see https://t.co/s5bCftYBdB You may want to count that as purely epistemic too, but it's a weaker, local constraint. It's open to all kinds of biases. Bayesians are not disinterested.

[Eiko Fried @EikoFried]

If you want to make a dent into rates of mental health problems, make sure people have a roof over their heads, health insurance coverage, enough food to eat. Let's start there.

And let's not forget Kendler: "You would not explain hypertension at the level of quarks".

[Koenfucius 🔍 @koenfucius]

You’d think that conspiracy theorists are gullible, shallow thinkers. But you’d be wrong, argue @sjgadsby and @sandervdc—people who endorse and spread mad theories are intelligent, but they’re drawn (a bit too much) to the intoxicating lure of discovery: https://t.co/lj425UB7E1

[Alberto Acerbi @acerbialberto]

I discuss (favourably) this hypothesis in my forthcoming book on digital technopanics.

[Rob Sica @robsica]

"A relevant distinction is between perspective-taking and perspective-getting – don’t just try to put yourself in someone else’s shoes (perspective-taking); genuinely enquire about how they see the world (perspective-getting)."

[Stefan Schubert @StefanFSchubert]

Uncovering genuine secrets of nature and delusional conspiracy theories can subjectively feel the same (‘aha’).

[Navkuran Ghuman @it0from1bit]

Great piece by @sandervdc

H/t @erikphoel for sharing it on their s'stack

[Tom Ringstrom 🦡 @no_reward_for_u]

RL researchers will never "solve" the intrinsic reward problem--high-dimensional rewards or value functions will never be tenable as a theory. You can only respond to how things in the world (externally, internally) impact the structure of what you are, which is high-dimensional.

[Ruxandra Teslo 🧬 @RuxandraTeslo]

“Any system that is not explicitly pro-Weird Nerd will turn anti-Weird Nerd pretty quickly.”

My essay on why those looking to create/improve intellectual institutions need to take Rux's rule into account -- with loads of references to Katalin Kariko.

https://t.co/NhdCNQjgGB

Excerpts:

"A few weeks ago, a lot of people on academic X quickly forgot about their support for “Women in STEM” and got angry at, of all people, Katalin Karikó, the co-inventor of the mRNA technology used in COVID-19 vaccines and 2023 Nobel Prize winner. Her crime? A passage from her book where she laments that academia involved way too much people pleasing and political games for her. Reactions varied from angry: “Who does she think she is”/”We are all Geniuses, not only her, we all deserve funding, why does she think she is special”/”Nooo, she is a jerk” to self-satisfied, cynical: “Well of course this is how it is, why are intelligent people so naive?”

[..]

A couple of months ago I wrote a piece called “The flight of the Weird Nerd from academia”, in which I argued there is a trend wherein Weird Nerds are being driven out of academia by the so-called Failed Corporatist phenotype. Katalin Karikó is a perfect example of a Weird Nerd. I recently argued that many Weird Nerds (I called them autistics, but people really hated that1), have found a refuge on the Internet, where their strengths are amplified and their weaknesses are less important. There, I make the case for why these people are uniquely suited for creative intellectual endeavours and why they might slip through the cracks in a lot of normal jobs. Judging from a (short) lifetime of personal observations as well as the vitriol launched at Kariko for daring to not be “normal”, I suspect some explicit pro-Weird Nerd norms have to exist in an institution that seeks to properly utilize these people, for the benefit of us all. To formalize this:

“Any system that is not explicitly pro-Weird Nerd will turn anti-Weird Nerd pretty quickly.”

That is because most people, while liking non-conformism in the abstract and post-facto, are not very willing to actually put up with the personality trade-offs of Weird Nerds in practice. There is an increasing number of people right now who are thinking about how to build better intellectual institutions (e.g. those who study metascience.) Yet surprisingly little attention is given to human capital outside of “Let’s increase immigration” (a good idea, don’t get me wrong.) But if the rule turns out to be true, I think it’s worth thinking about what kind of people one wants to attract in these institutions and how to keep them there. And I believe the conversation here starts with accepting a simple truth, which is that Weird Nerds will have certain traits that might be less than ideal, that these traits come “in a package” with other, very good traits, and if one makes filtering or promotion based on the absence of those traits a priority, they will miss on the positives. It means really internalizing the existence of trade-offs in human personality, in an era where accepting trade-offs is deeply unfashionable, and structuring institutions and their cultures while keeping these in mind.

[..]

In one of her interviews, Katalin Karikó recalls her mother calling her from Hungary around the time when the Nobel Prizes were awarded and asking her if that year she was going to win it. The question, in its loving naivete, must have stung worse than an insult: not only was Karikó not close to this remarkable feat, she was actually unsuccessful by much less ambitious metrics. Put simply, she had left her family in Hungary to work in the US, but for little actual measurable reward, be it status or pecuniary. Karikó did not get grants. Karikó did not get tenure. What Karikó did was work until late at night on a topic people did not pay that much attention to at the time: mRNA for vaccines. And she did that for decades. Paul Graham talks about an underrated quality one needs for extreme success, namely the willingness to be low status. And Karikó had plenty of that: she lived her convictions, in this case the conviction in the importance of mRNA through rejections, humiliations (her office was vacated without her having received prior notice) and hardship. I would go even further and say: she had intellectual courage.

[..]

To have so much intellectual courage one has to be a bit mad. It’s hard to believe this needs to be said, but the no trade-off world many people like to pretend is real does not, in fact, exist. It’s reasonable to expect Weird Nerds or anyone else for that matter to be ethical and not become toxic colleagues. And listening to the interviews with Karikó one hardly gets the impression that she was toxic: there is a Jesus-like quality to the way she talks even about the people who had wronged her — for example about a Professor who threatened to have her deported. It’s hard to imagine that coming from a “jerk”, as many have called her. But it’s also hard to believe someone like her could ever become the most pleasant interlocutor at a dinner party, or the most socially adept and organized manager. And that is fine. We need her in the lab, not at fancy dinners.

[...]

It’s at this young PI stage that Karikó ’s career hit a wall: after she became an Adjunct Professor, she stopped advancing further. Some of it was because of the topic she had chosen and in this regard, diversifying funding and supporting more high risk projects are very good proposals coming from the metascience community that would have helped. But some of it was probably her personality, as she says herself. I suspect selection against Weird Nerds has actually amplified since Karikó ’s time in academia: everything from ever larger collaborations in Biology, to longer times to becoming independent or increase in admin points in that direction. Indeed, as I have argued before, there is some quantitative evidence there are less Weird Nerds in STEM academia than there used to be.

So far I have discussed the Hard Sciences, but there is a case to be made that the problem is much more acute in less quantifiable fields like Humanities or Social Sciences. STEM has a higher barrier to entry: there is only so much political game playing that one can do in order to advance themselves if one cannot perform experiments in a lab. It is also somewhat more clear if a scientific piece of work is completely bad. There is feedback from industry, with most start-ups in biotech these days coming out of academic labs: this provides a strong incentive for innovation. Such quality check mechanisms are on much more shaky ground in fields like Humanities, where feedback from society can happen on the order of decades. Arguably, being a Weird Nerd that is intrinsically driven by the truth as opposed to what’s fashionable is even more crucial in the absence of hard metrics that can tell one their work is wrong.

But backlash from society does eventually happen, and I think we are in the middle of this right now, with trust in academia plummeting in a bipartisan fashion, as recent Gallup polls show. At least some of the current crisis is, in my opinion, down to academia essentially selecting against Weird Nerds types. A problem with non-STEM topics might sound less problematic than a replication criss in cancer biology. I think that’s not true: after all, we depend on a collective imaginary for a healthy society, a collective imaginary whose pillars might be slowly crumbling.
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[Andreas De Block @DeblockBlock]

Apparently, the secret to fair funding decisions is... skipping the proposals altogether. Who knew all that effort was optional? "We find that withholding proposal texts from panelists did not detectibly impact their proposal rankings." https://t.co/WINOYJnrGn

[Erik Hoel @erikphoel]

Becoming deeply impatient with people who have millions flowing into their academic institutes producing sub-par work

[Koenfucius 🔍 @koenfucius]

Are we ultimately motivated by surmountable obstacles? Interesting long read by @sandervdc: https://t.co/ZXy2abPz2W
HT @danwiliiamsphil

[Sander Van de Cruys @sandervdc]

"There is no reward" is a new Substack on which @JoBervoets and I take turns in writing. More to come: https://t.co/kgApntiD4K

[Sander Van de Cruys @sandervdc]

💡New piece on our deepest motivations. Link below.

[Sander Van de Cruys @sandervdc]

Responding to views by @danwilliamsphil @DavidPinsof @no_reward_for_u @page_eco Still finding my voice. Academic detox and all. Inspired by writings by @erikphoel @a_m_mastroianni @RogersBacon1 Bear with me 😅