@Ghetto_CNN@TheHughAnthony I don't get why you're lying about the Romans; they literally destroyed whole populations because they were seen as inferior.
@Ghetto_CNN@TheHughAnthony Because using the word Latin is pointless, the Romans saw themselves as Roman.
Yes, they extended citizenship as a way to conquer, because they believed that "paper" citizenship would convince them to accept being ruled by the Romans.
Romans were supremacist.
@SikTheon @bay_366 @TheHughAnthony Your comment doesn't make much sense. I will let you try again, because I don't want to mistake it as just a silly comment; you probably don't want to look silly either.
@Ghetto_CNN@TheHughAnthony You could become a citizen, but power resided in the Roman ethnic group; you talk about Latins, but Romans didn't see other Italians as equal to them. In fact, the idea of calling them Italians/Latins would be an anathema to them.
The Romans didn't trust other Italians/Latins.
@BurgundyBrosef@Harrow1955@TheHughAnthony Fair enough.
The actions were obvious, though. I think people suffer from only seeing things from their own lifespan, and forget that countries are much older and were normally built around an ethnicity. There's a reason Americans who come to Britain think it's similar.
@Ghetto_CNN@TheHughAnthony Hahaha, so naive, the Romans literally discriminated against non-ethnic Romans; they didn't allow them to have positions of power.
No other cultures but their own were acceptable.
Imagine ignoring the obvious because it's named the Roman Republic.
@Ghetto_CNN@TheHughAnthony Yes, it was, only Romans of true blood could take rule in the senate, also, it turning into an Empire doesn't stop the fact that its whole bedrock was built on the Roman ethnicity and all that comes with it. The Romans saw themselves as superior to others.
@BurgundyBrosef@Harrow1955@TheHughAnthony Haha, the US literally did that.
Hence, most of the declarations consistently said their rights as Englishmen should not be infringed, and they made laws that only allowed a very specific ethnic group to get citizenship; many of these laws remained until the 1960s.
But carry on.
@BurgundyBrosef@Harrow1955@TheHughAnthony So you don't understand the term, don't worry, we don't know everything.
It's about the culture, laws, ruling elite, traditions and so on.
It's obvious that the US, for most of its history, was an ethno-state built around British ideals and concepts, and many ways still is.
@BurgundyBrosef@Harrow1955@TheHughAnthony That's amusing, you think it stops being an ethno state because other ethnicities might reside in it, or that it expands further than its starting size, I guess China, Germany, and Russia don't count then as ethno states.
Ethno states is about the people, not the dimensions.
@BurgundyBrosef@Harrow1955@TheHughAnthony You're being weird for some reason.
The USA is an ethnic construct of Europeans, more specifically British; it doesn't belong to any other group, hence its whole DNA is based on British idealism, and a bit of the French ideals as well.
It's an ethnic construct, the third time.
@BurgundyBrosef@Harrow1955@TheHughAnthony That's if you believe the US is a construct of not Europeans, which it very much is.
There is no USA without the British, so it belongs to them or their descendants, though a decent amount of Germans, but obviously similar European group.
@SikTheon @bay_366 @TheHughAnthony They were never meant to be part of the country, but only a labour force to fill the fields.
It's quite obvious that they never wanted to integrate them into the country.
@Russet_Wolf13@TheHughAnthony Are you insane? Name me a country that isn't named after the ethnicity, it's a handful at most.
Pretty much the bedrock of most countries, one of the main reasons they say Africa has problems because most aren't built around ethnic lines, but old colonial ones.
@Ghetto_CNN@TheHughAnthony Nation-states have existed for thousands of years, and they've been closely linked with ethnicity. Romans didn't see themselves as equal to other citizens; Greeks saw themselves as superior. You find the same in China; it's non-stop.
It's an effective setup, hence its success.
@Russet_Wolf13@TheHughAnthony Actually, Europe is very high in homogeneity, especially Northern Europe, and obviously, more remote places like Islands, mountainous and places that are either very cold or hot generally have a high level of homogeneity.
Also, ethno-states are the default for most countries.
@bay_366 @TheHughAnthony It wasn't; the entire point of the US was to be an ethnic state, hence the immigration laws until the 1960s were aimed at Northern Europeans.
@Ghetto_CNN@TheHughAnthony Everything is an artificial construct: this website, your device, your clothes, your home, and so on.
Also, most of our ancestors thought they were a good thing, hence most countries are named after the ethnicity that created them.