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Why is the Russell Brand case so controversial?
Because he has been turned into a scapegoat for the systematic failures of the culture that enabled and encouraged his behavior while profiting or being entertained by it.
Because claiming that a woman who did not file a police report about being raped 20 years ago didn't actually consent by not doing so, and can change her mind without real evidence at any time is the same as claiming that she is permanently incapable of making rational decisions at the moment she needs to make them and therefore not an adult capable of providing meaningful witness testimony. This should insult women everywhere because it is blatant sexism.
Because witness testimony 20 years after the fact and five years after a relentless media campaign against someone should never be acceptable as evidence in a court of law.
Because if people want sexual equality, then they also need to be equally responsible for themselves and equally accountable for their behavior.
Because scapegoating someone fails all of us by encouraging everyone to blame someone else for whatever personal failings they have.
Know what you're actually doing is your setting a precedent that scapegoating a person is OK to cover the failures of your own culture and your own personal failures.
You're telling people that actually, they weren't responsible for themselves when they made the decision not to file a police report.
That actually, the consent that women provide is revocable after the fact.
You're setting a precedent that it's acceptable to blame a single individual for the failings of the people that created and profit it from him, and the audiences that celebrated him.
You're setting a present that it's OK to send a person at jail 20 years after the fact on witness testimony that has been polluted by years of lured media reporting.
You are setting a precedent that you have the worst kind of justice system - one that is interested in chronic collectve ignorance of your problems in favor of scapegoating problematic individuals.
You've done the legal system a great disservice and injustice, and you've also worsened the relations between the sexes in the process guaranteeing that actual justice for actual rapists is largely avoided in favor of targets.
In other words, you are the worst kind of people because you believe yourselves to be righteous and good while actually collectively excusing your own darkness by pretending it's someone else's fault.
I truly don't expect much more from a country that jails it's citizens for 'online hate speech' at a rate 10 times that of Russia, while having a quarter of its population.
I don't follow you, but I can block you if you want,
I just don't think that a woman who sticks her tongue up a man's ass as a greeting when they first meet him should ever be referred to as an innocent victim.
An innocent victim would've gone to the cops and reported it.
So even she didn't think she was innocent.
By pretending like she is, you're trying to absolve all women of self responsibility.
You're trying to scapegoat a person for all of your awfulness and inability to be able to take responsibility for your actions.
Do you not respect the fact that the supposed victim never filed a police report to report the rape?
Or are you telling me she was actually incapable of making decisions for herself?
Which is it? Are you, or are you not capable of being responsible for yourself out in the world?
Or are you interested in deciding which it is depending on convenience?
@_brinxinx I can tell you're still being too nice because of the length of your response.
Bro, nobody deserves that much of your attention unless they're willing to give you a little respect.
@spedding_h53178@scribblercat Nah. Fuck all you Brits. You waited 20 years to destroy a man using hearsay.
You are all despicable hypocrites who have scapegoated the failures of your society onto one man.
You're not even scum
completely disagree. If that were true then half the Internet wouldn't be furious about it.
Why you are totally wrong and this case was a travesty of justice:
Decades-Long Delay: Prosecuting offenses from 17 to 22 years agoโwith no UK statute of limitationsโraises due process concerns over faded memories and lost records needed for a fair defense.
No Forensic Proof: Metropolitan Police acknowledged lacking CCTV, DNA, or medical exams due to the time gap, leaving a 10.5-year prison sentence resting on witness testimony and phone notes.
Pre-Trial Publicity: Criminal charges followed a 2023 Times and Channel 4 Dispatches exposรฉ, prompting his barrister and critics to argue that media coverage compromised a fair trial.
Perceived Political Targeting: Because media investigations surfaced after Brand became a vocal anti-establishment commentator, supporters suspect coordinated "lawfare" against a dissident.
Mid-Encounter Consent: Critics have rightly questioned adjudicating withdrawn consent mid-actโright after consensual vaginal sexโdecades later without any outside eyewitness in the room.
Institutional Scapegoating: Broadcasters like the BBC and industry executives enabled and profited from Brandโs persona for years, yet issued apologies while facing zero legal penalties.
Bystander Inaction: Workplace entourages and colleagues indulged or ignored his behavior in real time, fueling doubts about why conduct later punished as felony assault went unreported.
Discounted Redemption: Years of sobriety, rehab charity, Christian faith, and fatherhood barely mitigated his prison term, making personal reform seem futile.
@Blue_Froglet@KateEMcCann They aren't brave they're whores getting a pass for their behavior along with the audience and entertainment execs who profited off behavior they encouraged.
@StoryLovinEllen What learned is that the UK considers women who tongue men's asses without without the man's consent victims of rape but men who do the same in response rapists deserving 10 years in jail. 20 years after the fact.
@broadwaybabyto How is Brand a rapist when then victim stuck her tongue up his anus without asking consent first?
Oh yeah I forgot - total and complete whitewashing of self-responsibility.
Imagine a chick that ate your ass in a comedy club bathroom successfully convincing people 20 years later that you raped her.
Wild.
You can put Russell Brand in prison, lady.
But you canโt uneat his ass.
Screw you, hag.
So brave to wait 20 years before filing suit.
Do you think she was brave when she stuck her tongue up his ass?
Or was that the next day when she went back for more?
Such a brave whore.
Wait 20 years when regret and time have eaten at the hole caused by shitty behavior.
This is why men hate you. No self-responsibility AT ALL.
@clairemcilvenna Obviously, every woman pretending like the gal who stuck her tongue in Russell's asshole upon meeting him is an innocent victim is as dishonest as she is irresponsible.