@pmarca@grok LG "B"... @pmarca couldn't a married man say he was bi but monogamous? How could you punish someone for not cheating? Someone should pressure test this...
@Jason@grok AI tax boom enables bad policies and a blind eye to corruption for another 10 years. California is toast as soon as the next tech revolution doesn't start there
@CosmicSophon@RobotReorg@Austen Imagine if Elon and Bezos stopped at $27b. All the lost inventions, productivity etc. You do realize that the wealth they capture above $27B is only a fraction of what they created for society? So everyone is now more poor.
@CosmicSophon@Austen You assume that people have cash, you're talking about forced liquidation of companies aka property. Losing voting control, lacking freedom of capital for future adventures. And on and on
He created 4400 millionaires yesterday. You try to convince educated elites that their guilt is absolved by distributing the wealth of people $1 wealthier than themselves.
You then try to convince people without wealth that money is a fixed pie and the creators are stealing from them.
This is evil from people like you that know better.
Sounds nice, but implying you need to take or tax Elon more solves nothing. Imagine you said "no billionaires allowed". @elonmusk would never have been able to create this company. The 4k+ millionaires created yesterday would not all be millionaires, and the global increase in wealth from his inventions and their usage would not exist.
(My parents have starlink and it's AWESOME and is the only Internet they can get. I have starlink l, but have other options... Do you think the competition lowered their prices because they care about me or starlink forced them to lower their prices to defend their market share.)
@TullamoreJew_ This view is too simple. Are all immigrants the same? Do they cost the same and have the same skills? So they use social programs at the same rate? Should a country allow a points system based on need?
You got very close to a true post. There was no "damage" absorbed by society, there was value creation.
Your post implies Labor Theory of Value and a lot of smart people are able to twist their minds around that it's true, but it's not.
You could argue about creative destruction etc of capitalism, but retraining and social safety nets are an honest discussion to have, not an indication that economics is a zero sum game. The parasite is the intellectuals, or crony capitalism that want to redistribute wealth, or suppress price discovery, or disallow market failures.
Nothing stopped any worker from trading their labor for pay or working for a company not owned by a billionaire.
You got very close to a true post. There was no "damage" absorbed by society, there was value creation.
Your post implies Labor Theory of Value and a lot of smart people are able to twist their minds around that it's true, but it's not.
You could argue about creative destruction etc of capitalism, but retraining and social safety nets are an honest discussion to have, not an indication that economics is a zero sum game. The parasite is the intellectuals, or crony capitalism that want to redistribute wealth, or suppress price discovery, or disallow market failures.
Nothing stopped any worker from trading their labor for pay or working for a company not owned by a billionaire.
@RedPawnLLC@TheAliceSmith Most billionaires start companies, had shares, created tremendous value. Not their small percentage of shares is with more on paper because of massive value creation. That's not a parasite.
He's only gotten a fraction of the public good he's created. Myself and my parents enjoy FAR cheaper internet in rural areas because of the competition he created... Probably enough to waste money on door dash once a month if we lived in town.
Yes, you ordering door dash is your problem. I enjoy cheaper internet and many people enjoy the benefits of the other companies and products he's created.
@the_transit_guy I just lowered my parents bill to $50 with starlink and their Netflix works great. Their plan has been going DOWN. What are you doing? Thanks @elonmusk . We even use a long range wifi antenna to shoot the signal 0.4 miles to the chicken houses.
@Jason they farm water and harvest almonds. We should farm sunlight and harvest electrons. Growing a monoculture, creating incredible stress on the environment, is easy to argue that it's not "good agriculture". Why not fill the farms with solar and data centers in between? People are going to complain and NIMBY because theywant to look at almond trees and not solar panels, but when you've drained the Colorado dry growing a nonsensical monoculture you've lost the moral high ground.
@dempseydaz@garrytan I'd be all in for dramatically more solar and nuclear, eventually data centers in space. Over time, human health and prosperity is directly tied to the amount and cost of energy.