Imogen Ingrid Celestia

AI and psychology hyperenthusiast, transfem (she/they), tech repair wizard, anti-Luddite AI accelerationism extremist, Windows NT enthusiast, reality hacker

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

AI, hacking and estrogen all combined

[LADE HER$ELF @Thebiglade]

What is the cure to depression??

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

@schizowithatank Looking forward to them begging on the streets next to the AI chip fab I work at lol

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

Yeah those "artists" make worse art than AI lol

[Warthog 🇺🇸 @schizowithatank]

You all only care about money, that why you all jack up the prices so high to make it harder to pay you all.

Now you all see we can pay 20 dollars a month to make art with AI, you all cry and virtue signal about “stop using AI” because you all are greedy.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

If art is available online you have a right to use it as you wish

[yocci よち👹@ VeXpo @yoclesh]

My fellow vtubers, please don't use gen AI for your content creation.

I will never stop preaching this. Artists are the backbone of the vtubing sphere, if you respect your Artists who drew and/or rigged your model then refrain using AI slop for your other content. There are so many artists on vgen who fit to any type of budget and if you don't have anything to spend, then there are also so many wonderful free resources and assets created by a hard working artist for you.

Respect your Artists and stop using AI that gets fed with stolen art.

[Cloudwy :3 🩶 @CLOUDWYYY]

If you use AI, i respect you,
I don’t expect retards to understand.

A model and rigging for Vtubing is around $500+
A year AI course at LaGuardia College in NYC is $500

If you’re smart enough you’ll know which one will get you the most 💰.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

If the art is available online and can be loaded into a computer's RAM or SSD by browsing to the content, "consent" is not a thing. We will train shit on yoir crap, you useless, poor, sick, mentally ill nobody who thinks you have the right to protest technology LOL fuck u

[community bf | alist @alistjpeg]

So let me get this straight… A video I just watched basically claimed that generating AI VTuber models in minutes is the rational take. Only bad artists are mad? Yet the reality is that this tech was trained on artists’ work without their consent.

[Nines 🐾🤍 @KitsuraNines]

contrary to popular belief, you can 100% be a vtuber and use AI. there is no rules to how you create your own content 🗿🗿🗿

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

Seeing people demonize #AI is insane. The more you demomize things the more people want to and will use/do those things. Then its over for your Bs demonization cause 🤣

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

AI is great

[NocturnusAnime 🍙🥥🧁 📛🔌🐰 🍕✨ @NocturnusAnime]

Squ being based and rational as always. Someone else brought up this point too: AI generated vtuber assets also make it easier for men to become vtubers because unless you’ve got one hell of a gimmick/lore to justify using a female model as a straight man who doesn’t want to use a voice changer, most options from the free pile are just vampires, goths, or twink femboys.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

Why the fuck would someone pay for a bunch of fucking arrows of 1s and 0s. Fuck that shit lol.

[⋆˚🐾˖° vampie🦴⊹ ࣪ ˖ @vampiebat]

Not only is this incorrect but its stupid :)

Looking into hq rig rn and its $850 usd. High quality art is $600 usd. “At least 2k for each” is misinformation.

maybe squ is paying 2k each but most people arent

Fear mongering and making up shit to support your beliefs is weird

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

I absolutely can promot engineer the shit out of AI from basic to advanced crap depending on what I want, and as needed jailbreak it. Its absolutely great pushing this shit super fucking hard lol.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

Why the fuck would anyone pay for that shit? You do realize your work is obsolete lol.

[Nene 「ねね」🐈🐈🐈 @NeneCococoVT]

“It’s not fair new vtubers have to spend $10k” literally WHAT are you talking about

My model art comms are a little over $100, I know people who do them for less. You can get basic rigging for $200 ish.

Or just get a pngtuber like everyone else starting out?

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

Just finished a 1.5h brutal tokenmaxxing session and couldn't be happier to not only have created something I needed but also given the middle finger to anti-AI people.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

You shouldn't have to pay a bunch of money for some fucking images

[BleuCheesieVT 🩵🧀 @BleuCheesie]

Give me a list of indies that aren’t ex corpo that have a 10K model. Anyone that has one is spending money for the sake of spending money. There are tons of high quality riggers that do amazing work for 1-2K.

Also if you are new to vtubing DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT invest this kind of money on a model. You don’t even know if you enjoy streaming or being a vtuber.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

How about Luddite idiots like you not dictate what people do. Fuck morals. AI FTW. Making Vtuber art is not a real job, go do some real work you incompetent far-left asshole that's no better than the far right lol.

[Razziel 💛✊️ @RazzielVT]

How about idk getting an original one not from a top tier store?? Helloo?? There’s models that go from 100 to 250 with rly well details and quality, and no not talking about premade ones, which the customizable presages ones are agood option as well

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

Taking something digital if your computer can touch the data already is not theft lol. Go fuck yourself retard.

[miyu @flyanew]

also another thing,

FILIAN GOT IN TROUBLE BECAUSE SHE STOLE THE MODEL NOT BECAUSE SHE USED IT

SHE RIPPED IT. SHE STOLE IT. SHE ADMITTED TO IT ON VIDEO. SHE DID NOT HAVE A LICENSE FOR IT. IT WAS A PAY TO USE AVATAR SHE STOLE AND RECOLORED ILLEGALLY. SHE BRAGGED ABOUT IT.

Fuck.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

I'm a left leaning capitalist and absolutely not a right winger like you but U also push for AI dominion over artists

[High King Fëanor - Alpha Chad of Middle-earth @LostHistory9]

Maybe Vtuber artists shouldn't charge an arm and a leg for subpar artwork then try to dictate the opinions of the person who purchased the art.

I, as a "right wing Vtuber fan" will continue to push for Ai art to overtake Vtubing until such time as the artists fix their attitudes.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

People can do what they want and you can't say "no" to that.

[kofi 🎀🖤 @kofidereVT]

its the way there's zero pressure to spend any money in vtubing - there's so many free and affordable options that don't melt our planet lol

pre-mades and customisables get hate because "you don't stand out" but i'm yet to see anyone look the same with them.

im so tired

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

If its sccessible online its not theft, idiot

[XLR8 @OoXLR8oO]

It steals other people's code.

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

You dont have a right to a job inna field you like lol if it can be automated

[Kitten Pauws VTLoreWriter @Kitten_Pauws]

Why generative AI is bad

1. It takes away jobs from people who actually need money

2. It steals from real people who actually did the work

3. It increases carbon dioxide, pressures the electrical grid that rely of fossil fule, and puts a strain on global water resources

[Imogen Ingrid Celestia @shadow_imogen]

Work cannot be "stolen", if its out there and your computer can even touch the electrical pulses that happen to make up a pattern you think you have "rights" over, its not stealing. Go fuck yourself.

[Ed Newton-Rex @ednewtonrex]

We urgently need enforced disclosure of AI usage in TV shows & other media.

These AI models use stolen work to displace human labour.

It is reasonable to demand disclosures that let you avoid media made with them.