Simon 🌹🌿

Flourishing and Whanaukataka.
He waka eke noa.

[Simon 🌹🌿 @simojotho]

@SportsStatsFan @Shane00 Yet Ben Taylor from Thinking Basketball ranks Bron as the GOAT.
Why is that? Is he just another LeBronstan?

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@SportsStatsFan @jackson12377933 @Shane00 Weirdly aggressive. Someone calling you out for projecting a non-existent audience doesn’t require a diatribe GOAT case lmao

Fwiw I hover bw Mike and Bron as GOAT. I think Mike probably had the better peak but Bron’s longevity as an all world player is ultimately overwhelming

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@SportsStatsFan @jackson12377933 @Shane00 What did I refuse to do?

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@SportsStatsFan @Shane00 Jordan is the best scorer ever. Where did I say he isn’t?

Again, you seem to think you’re talking to one LeBron twitter blob, not individuals who each have different perspectives

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@SportsStatsFan @Shane00 All players today have better offensive help by these standards. Oh wait, what does that mean for their opponents?

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@SportsStatsFan @jackson12377933 @Shane00 “You guys” - you know you’re talking to different people right? Not just some LeBron twitter blob

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@1Ronin_Jedi @ImAureus @33643pts Depends how you let them condition to a new context and adjust their games. None of the big are as effective defensively (Hakeem’s really interesting though). Shaq’s a liability off the bat and badly exposed in drop coverage.

Joker and Garnett replace Shaq and Duncan right away

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@FSPN_NEWS @Arl5Mvp 😂 36 year old LeBron without the passing

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@Arl5Mvp Didn’t realise Banchero was an all time creator and rim finisher

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@1Ronin_Jedi @ImAureus @33643pts If it’s about skills that are relevant to this era then I’ve got some bad news to tell you about guys from 30 years ago

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@ballislif32422 @hoopstonite @_JasonLT “Tell me you don’t study the game without telling me…”

Film analysis and impact metrics are not feelings lmao

Awards aren’t objective. They contain media bias + narrative. They’re reductive + misleading when divorced from their context

Do you think Kobe only deserved one MVP?

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@pandobobo @BeLegendary94 @VampireBrodie @RawnTheNotorius Chris was 37 years old bro. That’s older than Russ is now

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@pandobobo @BeLegendary94 @VampireBrodie @RawnTheNotorius “CP3 had Durant” ❌

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@ballislif32422 @hoopstonite @_JasonLT It’s telling that you’re only checking accolades. No appeal to impact metrics or tape whatsoever.

No personal film analysis or evaluation necessary. No personal basketball knowledge necessary. Just add up the awards

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@Biykend @hoopstonite @_JasonLT Okay?

Shaq also won without Kobe, and was the dominant force behind their 3 chips together. His 90s impact is neglected - making the finals in 95

Hakeem did it twice with less help. He’s arguably the greatest defensive player ever, while being his team’s primary option

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@queuebuster @hoopstonite @_JasonLT Magic has 5 rings. Yet D wins championships. How does that work?

You’re deferring to received wisdom, not thinking critically

Dominant O wins rings more often than dominant D

If D wins rings, are u prioritising it on your list? Where do Bill, Wilt, Hakeem, Tim, Garnett rank?

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@archfiendkingx @hoopstonite @_JasonLT That’s fine. It’s also reasonable to take them over Kobe

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@RLOsteppa @LakerGOAT17 @hoopstonite @_JasonLT I don’t think you realise virtually all lists evaluate players within the era they played. Otherwise they’d be dominated by current players.

What’s your top 10?

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@queuebuster @hoopstonite @_JasonLT Bird was all defence.
I appreciate attention to Magic’s defence though, which is often overlooked.

But why do they need to be 2 way in principle? It’s about overall impact. Hyper impactful offence could make up the difference

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@LakerGOAT17 @hoopstonite @_JasonLT In absolute terms? No, they’re not.
Relative to their era? Probably