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Love work ethic? Work causes 70% of World environmental degradation with 40% of landfill:builders skips alone! Our oldest industry?WAR! Dutch originally,Vegan✝️

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@Jacsiss @campbellclaret Also simply because London/Heathrow is one of the two most important tourist cities and airports in Europe, and Amsterdam/Schipol is the second...hence the Dutch adjusted figures being very similar to ours...This thing was distributed by travellers!!

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@kcahkcah @Rainmaker1973 A little like Concorde…with the insane traffic at each end, pretty sure it would have been an all day trip, whether 747 or Concorde!😏

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@JohnAmMe547 @ProudSocialist Not necessarily “large scale” …small, elite, wealthy, and relatively low consuming countries do exist…

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@jananeli @ProudSocialist @dogmatta Those who still have jobs and connection to income…the rest would be excluded. Production and consumption would be much lower overall. Ultimately a much smaller and more elite population…

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@GuyMasson @ProudSocialist Those who still have jobs and an income…Production,and Population would be much smaller…those who do the work of bots simply wouldn’t be needed.
As happened in previous industrial revolutions, we could invent “jobs” for created need…problem is, the environment wouldn’t cope.

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@calgary_jon @ProudSocialist They are certainly likely to be less sympathetic to supporting a huge and diverse population they have little connection and natural empathy with…
This is why low population countries like Sweden will do better?

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@MthiyaSipho @ProudSocialist Some would still work, and production (by bots) would be far lower….ultimately this leads to a much lower, elite, population and overall consumption, hence the argument for AI being needed for the environment…

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@NirajTulsyan @ProudSocialist Those who still have jobs or an income of some sort…Point is,capitalism can run with a “subset” of the population,where a large proportion is economically excluded.
Production and consumption volumes could be much lower,and only for the “subset”.
Population reduction? Enviro?

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@JamesMelville People having to live further and further away from where they work, due to high property prices…more time wasted…

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@JamesMelville It’s a sort of “law of diminishing returns” as far as efficiency and productivity versus population rise goes, I suspect…just look at the M25/roads around the Thames Valley here, they are log jammed and slow much of the time…overloaded infrastructure wasting time+productivity?

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@EntsPeter @TimC09613794 @ThreeJacques @PaulEmbery Tribalism always looks for simple labels…the simpler the criteria, the easier it is to place the “other” into the out group or in group…In fact, oversimplifying and ignoring the nuance of the out group’s members arguments is the essence of tribalism, once they’re identified😏

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@PorcGuy @sanjay0864 @Vitsafe77 @EricLDaugh I’m familiar with common culture among Muslims as I live in an area with a high proportion…Differences maybe subtle but they lead to big effects….ie. “The labourer is worthy of his wage” is really about exploitation of vulnerability, which, for them, is common and sensible!

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@WorldByWolf “Foreigners” can’t vote!🤔😏

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@TimesRadio @FraserNelson Just 3 things… “Community” has collapsed, relative to 50 yrs ago, many hubs like pubs, churches…gone. Therefore trust has gone.
I would drive on Mways/local roads in SE London at 70/40 mph, get to work quickly…now it’s 30/10 mph, if lucky and no accident!
A&E here…8hr wait!

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@Bungo20816364 @AssalRad It’s basically a death cult…it only ends when they’re all dead, including the non combatants!

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@csljohnkirby @CPhilpOfficial @Conservatives The French *are* ignoring their own laws though, as these vessels come under EU safety rules for vessels which are effectively carrying paying passengers, and clearly they don’t comply! They are supposed to be arrested to the nearest port, such as Calais, and impounded…😏

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@csljohnkirby @CPhilpOfficial @Conservatives He’s wrong of course,because the “new deal” doesn’t ensure vessels suspected of carrying “illegal” migrants will be stopped by French authorities at sea…
But then the constantly going back to Tory narrative is wrong also?..after all, he’s paid to be opposition, and now is now!!

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@TheGreenParty I suspect they know where we are on the “laffer curve”, (after all, they employ informed statisticians to advise them!) and they might well know that this will reduce the tax take? ….how do we know?

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@Vox_Lacertae @toadmeister I think they know where we are on the curve, after all, the government employ statisticians to tell them that as well…that’s why they’re not coming with the much discussed “wealth tax”…they know better…😏

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@GeneralKim_J @jurgen_nauditt The areas where the Russians have occupied have often been flatted in the process of doing that though…and the Ukrainians defending weren’t even in tunnels…so your comparison isn’t really invalid…

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@ArrowsmithLiam @baselessassert @ICohen2000 How am I “ramming my beliefs down everyone’s throats” exactly? …I’m just politely putting my point on a discussion thread! …take it or leave it, no forcing involved whatsoever!😁