Engineering Lead, musician, transplant recipient, skeptic, autodidact. Love two wheeled things, climbing, physics, and calling out fallacious reasoning.
@RationalPanthe1 @Rodney_Beer @MadDogCoops @atheist_bad @NewStoicTim@UK_Republic Review and consensus are for self correction; a good idea when seeking truth.
“Proof” is a mathematical concept, and not a word used much in science, but you used it. I didn’t want to squabble semantics, giving you a chance to share your evidence, instead.
On this day in 1921, The Tulsa Race Massacre happened in the affluent black community of Greenwood in Tulsa known as the Black Wall Street.
White supremacists killed more than 300 African Americans. They looted and burned to ground black homes and businesses.
@GeorgeBrauchler @DarienSWilson We need to acknowledge the breakdown of a social contract that has made people feel less valuable.
How can we expect people to uphold their end of that contract after the system has broken it so utterly?
Want to fix lawlessness? Start holding up the other end of that contract.
@RationalPanthe1 @Rodney_Beer @MadDogCoops @atheist_bad @NewStoicTim@UK_Republic I missed it - what was the peer reviewed, consensus inducing evidence you provided?
Not snark - I genuinely missed your proof and am open to it.
Are you open to it being wrong?
@Cruxster1 @AndrewLeeLanier@USMCNoggin@davestewart4444 It wasn’t a strawman, as I haven’t misrepresented your argument; you haven’t made one.
What was the purpose of your comment if not to cast aspersions on the launch? Apologies if I misunderstood and you accept gravity, the heliocentric reality of our solar system, et al.
@Cruxster1 @AndrewLeeLanier@USMCNoggin@davestewart4444 The facts are clear and undisputed among scientists and physicists.
You don’t accept them.
While ad hominem is fallacious, it’s not exactly as though you’re interested in good faith discussion of facts that might change your mind, or are you?
@LameRubberDucky @Kaesarino@BlunderMark@MBPaulkovich@kawashima_ami_ Yes, I experience this a lot as well.
Often I approach a conversation in good faith, but never get it off the ground because we can’t agree on terms/labels.
@LameRubberDucky @Kaesarino@BlunderMark@MBPaulkovich@kawashima_ami_ Sometimes, often not. Modern apologetics is better suited to “gotcha” logic (repetitive, unfounded assertions) and debate/argument, rather than dialectic/mutually beneficial conversation.
@LameRubberDucky @Kaesarino@BlunderMark@MBPaulkovich@kawashima_ami_ No, the assumption still exists: that I see conversation as a game to win or lose.
I don’t engage in dialectic to change people’s minds, but to better understand how they know what they know, their strongest arguments, and to see how well my own ideas hold up to critique.
@LameRubberDucky @Kaesarino@BlunderMark@MBPaulkovich@kawashima_ami_ You are assuming a metric by which I would measure outcomes and divine “success” or “failure.”
I don’t approach dialectic as a win/lose scenario.
@Kaesarino @LameRubberDucky @BlunderMark@MBPaulkovich@kawashima_ami_ There’s no argument; don’t dehumanize developmentally disabled folks by using them as an insult.
Happy to discuss something other than a cosmological argument of origins whenever you’d like, just bring a predictively accurate model.
@LameRubberDucky @Kaesarino@BlunderMark@MBPaulkovich@kawashima_ami_ When someone’s argument is to toss a hurried & sardonic quip without even proofreading to make sure they don’t look foolish, I have no desire to approach dialectic as I normally would.
Are you familiar with my normal approach, or do you presume familiarity based only on this?
@LameRubberDucky @Kaesarino@BlunderMark@MBPaulkovich@kawashima_ami_ I have a low tolerance for ad hominem, and an even lower tolerance for ableist tripe, so once someone lobs that BS into the conversation, they no longer need training wheels and we can cut directly to the fallacious chase, yes?