@vxunderground So? Tunnel your VPN connection over HTTPS and front your server with cloudflare. The collateral damage if they try to block it should be fun to watch π
@lopp I wouldn't say dumber, but more diversely interested, and therefore it's up to us to make Bitcoin more approachable to users, and not just accessible by subject matter experts. It's what going mainstream entails
@erikdesmedt@renepickhardt Yeah, you and @stevenroose3 we're careful in comparing things, and I applaud the clarity and transparency. Others have been less careful, and I wanted to point out the fallacy many fall into.
I really dislike the apples vs oranges comparisons that new off chain protocol proponents such as Ark and Spark perpetuate: liquidity is only a problem when crossing the boundary of a LN channel. Ark and Spark compare that with intra-instance payments.
@stevenroose3 Yep, not what I was criticizing, a more efficient use of funds is always a win in my book, but the comparison single instance ark vs a multihop network is still apples vs oranges
@stevenroose3 Still, you can only redistribute the funds that have been locked into the instance, that's the same as LN, with the caveat that LN 2p channels only have two parties. A more realistic comparison is a multiparty channel vs Ark, which has the same flexibility.
@erikdesmedt@renepickhardt Absolutely, still comparing single instance Ark/Spark vs mutli-hop payments is just comparing apples and oranges. Ark doesn't need to bash LN to have excellent features and UX, that's all I'm saying.
@erikdesmedt Oh absolutely, but ease of operation was not a dimension that we were comparing, it was feasibility. But I agree, that an operator connecting Ark servers can likely specialize much more. Just the "Ark does not have LNs liquidity issues" is the narrative I object to.
Not saying Ark or Spark aren't great new developments, but please keep the comparisons honest. LN just makes inter- and intra-instance payments evident because it is limited to two participants per channel. But that goes away with multi-party channels.
Consider this: each instance of ark/spark or LN channel is an island with a fixed set of participants. Amongst the participants of a single instance there is no limit on how the funds can be redistributed and no limit on speed.
Is it any wonder that sites like SciHub and AnnasArchive exist, when the only alternative to read tax funded research is to give Springer and co kickbacks?
I'm always amazed by the inflated expectations of Journal Editors and academic Conference organizers when it comes to reviewers: No, I don't care about your conf, and I do not intend to donate my review work for free. I do not have to excuse myself when you "assign me a paper"
Academic publishing is rotten to the core, with big publishers reaping the benefits of research funded by public money. And conference organizers are complicit in this grift! I will not support you any longer.