@elonmusk STFU @elonmusk There is nothing troubling here. its just another hype cycle meant as marketing and inviting govt involvement for regulatory capture. you are just enabling it. if you say you are for freedom and do this shit. no one is goanna believe you.
Communism hates the family because strong families don’t need the State.
It hates religion because people with faith don’t worship government.
It hates prosperity because rich slaves are harder to control.
That’s not just a wild claim, that’s the entire communist history of the 20th century.
Repost if you see through their warped agenda.
@saylordocs It's a good thing, you don't have billions. That's not the best use of that money. It cause more harm than good. Afterall the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
🫡Agree with everything you said sir but this is temporary because our constitution gave imense power to the govt to come in when ever they want take control of key national industries. The first power hungry politician to want credit for this private achievement will end this.
Great achievement by the initiative of Pawan Kumar Chandana and Naga Bharath Daka, the two founders and the entire team at Skyroot Aerospace. This became possible because the government decided to "allow" private players into space technology. They also decided to let private companies use the public sector ISRO infrastructure for testing and launching.
These two founders actually quit ISRO in 2018 because private rocket development was not allowed or funded at that time. Their decision to leave and start their own company was itself a strong act of individual initiative.
If these two founders could not have done this privately, they would probably have stayed inside ISRO. There they would have been stuck in internal corporate and government politics and friction it creates. They might have lost all motivation to do anything meaningful. In the end, they could have ended up as just another nobody under the heavy hand of some power-hungry operator inside ISRO. I have to add that such politics and friction also happen in big private companies. But in large government organisations it is usually worse, because politicians get involved to control things but have no skin in the game.
First, what this shows is that India has immense talent which is hidden and withering away or migrating abroad for more freedom to experiment, tinker, innovate and build.
I will not praise any government for “allowing” private players. The word “allowing” means they hold coercive power. By definition, that should be seen as immoral. This is especially true against the backdrop of Indian civilizational values, whose modern equivalent in the political and economic sphere is libertarianism or even anarcho-capitalism.
This is a wake-up call to the government. Just step out of the way. Give the power back to the people. Let the people decide what the government should be allowed to do. That is the most moral thing to do if the politicians truly care about India, its people, and its true culture based on our civilizational values. My India. My country. My people.
The Indian politicians and the government from all political parties have this patronizing and condescending attitude towards the people of India. They see the builders, the creators, the hard-working producers as people who need guidance. They think they have to sit on top, manage, control and guide people to live their lives the “right way”.
Builders and producers do not need government guidance, government help or government approval to do their thing. Everything happens because of individual creativity, curiosity, drive, innovation and the instinctive urge to create, produce and build. It does not come from government power or government policy.
Politicians know that government creates friction. Moral and good people often cannot navigate that friction. Only a manipulative few have the ability to navigate government friction. That is why we have brain drain. People who cannot navigate the government friction simply escape the system and migrate abroad or just get demotivated to do anything.
Skyroot’s achievement should be a wake-up call for politicians to step out of the way and do the right thing for India and its people. Our freedom has been crushed for a long time. Now is the time for people to enjoy true freedom, true liberty and true opportunity. To live as they please. To produce as they please. And to make this country great and glorious again.
Government should minimise itself to just defence, judiciary and law and order. Anything else the government does creates friction. Its role should be made as tiny as possible.
@ProfVemsani we still have the same potential but our socialist policies and big govt with a lot of discretionary power is draining away all that potiential
@AbakpaJob in socialism, your survival needs are never met, whether you are working or not. if capitalism is predatory, what do you call socialism then
@mukund in China if you are scientific tempered. the govt celebrates you. in India govt don't care and actually hinder you. not purposefully but still.
Thank you for demonstrating how development becomes so cumbersome due to state intervention. No wonder we have so much brain drain. who the fuck wants to jump through all these hoops and once the govt think you outshined them. they will fuck you over without a second thought.
To enter startup city,
- you first need to do KYC: submit entry form, self-attested physical copies of PAN, GST, Aadhaar, Incorporation certificate in triplicate. Because what if people scam
- you need to submit in person at a desk in startup city, because what if people scam online. If any mistake in form or missing document, come back next day
- After 2 weeks, your application is processed. You get startup city id. You get entry. Because exclusivity.
To get business loan in startup city,
- You apply with startup city id: fill online form, do KYC again with literally same documents. Because bank knows no other process
- But you are eligible for lower cost loan only if business registered address is same state as startup city. Otherwise change registered address to same city and apply again. Because they want to promote state
To get tax rebate in startup city,
- Your startup city id is not enough. You need a special registration tax id. Because tax dept. wants to have more control
- For special registration tax id, do KYC with literally same documents again. Just one additional document required - last 3 years statements. Before tax dept. wants…wait for it…more control
- But you are a startup with only 2 years existence, so you need to email special circumstance request to tax dept. But you don’t hear back from them for 2 months. Because they did create dedicated team for this
To reach startup city,
- you have to travel 47 km outside the current metro city located in middle of nowhere. Because the politicians and bureaucrats involved could find land only there to buy before news of startup city was announced
- you have to travel through 5 interconnecting roads, two of them one-laned and filled with potholes, pass through the main market of three villages and a major sabzi mandi in rush hour. Because easy connectivity wasn’t built because two municipalities couldn’t coordinate and align mutually.
Welcome to startup city 😊
@sekar_vembu 👍 nice. My bad then.
The problem is with our constitution itself. It failed to sufficiently constrain govt tendency to expan into people's businesses and live. And where they expand turns to shit.
@sekar_vembu@balajis what choice do they have. the govt will not let them be without getting their cut.
you are blaming the wrong party here. they are just the victims of this govt controlled ecosystem.
they are just playing the game they need to survive.
ORBIT ACHIEVED. 🚀
Vikram-1 Test Flight-1 has reached orbit. India's first privately developed orbital rocket has completed its final burn and injected its payloads into a ~450 km orbit, making India the third country in the world with private orbital launch capability.
History is made. 🇮🇳
#Vikram1 #JourneyToOrbit #SkyrootAerospace
@haha_girrrl At this point I am not even trying to get a job. its secondary. I am learning for the love of the craft. if it pays off it pays off. if not I will have a cool skill to play around with.
I agree with everything you said except that the USA or CHINA for that matter or anywhere near Agi. I don't think they are moving in the right direction to achieve that. so I am not worried. I could be wrong but I don't see it.
India's entire AI strategy, to the extent we ever had one, rested on a foregone conclusion: the United States wins the race to AGI, we piggyback on Silicon Valley's frontier models for our own ends, and we count on American goodwill to not end up on the receiving end of a post-AGI world.
That hypothesis needs serious reconsideration now that Chinese labs are catching up fast enough that "6 to 8 months behind" can no longer be stated as settled fact. With Kimi K3, a Chinese lab has put into the open a genuinely frontier-class model, one that beats GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8 on a range of coding and agentic benchmarks and sits within striking distance of Fable 5 and GPT 5.6 Sol, the strongest systems American labs have publicly released. The American labs almost certainly hold stronger models in reserve, whether for compute, cost, or regulatory reasons, but the point stands: openly available Chinese models have never been this close to the frontier.
Which opens up a possibility worth taking seriously: China is a real contender to win the race to AGI, and perhaps to superintelligence itself. What happens if the unipolar power of the next era is the Han imperium under the CPC? What happens when the neighbour we share disputed borders and a long list of political tussles with acquires a technological and economic edge so decisive that even the US and the West cannot be counted on to balance it? India's sovereignty and diplomatic room in that world hinge on questions we have not seriously begun to ask, and they deserve a Plan B drawn up now, with an immediate sense of urgency.
That's what the govts do. They see a nice thing. come in. takes it over by hook or crook and once everything is ruined. they act surprised. It happened so many times. it has become exhausting.
India already had a network state in the 70s
Hippies got together, bought land and moved from across the globe to create Auroville, which is very similar to a network state
Theyre constantly going to court and in the 80s the indian gov took over control by making a new law