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[Spencer @SpenKub]

@kevxcollins @BackwardsFeet Would you agree in a place with tons of solid orthodox parishes and masses the sspx shouldn't operate without the permission of the bishop.

Like how every religious society is expected to act

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@kevxcollins @BackwardsFeet if Rome decided to lawfully abolish the SSPX that would be in Rome's authority to do

at the end of the day, if you recognize the Pope and want to be in union with the church you have to submit to its authority

if the sspx wants to be independent they are in schism

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@endoftake @BackwardsFeet @kevxcollins I'm familiar with the topic

The claim that they're owed a bishop seems very shaky

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@endoftake @BackwardsFeet @kevxcollins What's your source on this promise?

And no religious society is exempt from the oversight of Rome

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@kevxcollins @BackwardsFeet If the SSPX would stop setting up independent chapels and actually submit to getting faculties from a local bishop they could do actual parish ministry

[Brett Kollmann @BrettKollmann]

Is there anyone even left in the Netherlands

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@LdeJlv @BackwardsFeet so if they recognize the Pope they have no issue submitting to him when he tells them they can't violate canon law right?

"recognizing" doesn't mean anything if they don't follow through on actions

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@peregasolinus @BackwardsFeet They have frequently advised people to stay home rather than go to Mass and their argument for an "Emergency" is based on the premise that the means of salvation are not available at parishes

but if they do not question the validity of the Mass then Muller's proposal seems good

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@peregasolinus @BackwardsFeet well given how often they accuse the church of teaching error and question the validity of the Mass then such an affirmation seems called for

if you think the church teaches error idk why youd want to be in union with the Pope

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@Nox5347 @nicholasdetejas @BackwardsFeet What sort of modernism are you accusing him of

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@nicholasdetejas @BackwardsFeet In what ways do you think I'm being uncharitable

The point is making a pro sspx video doesn't justify their act of schism

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@nicholasdetejas @BackwardsFeet hiring a videographer doesn't justify violating canon law and ordaining your own bishops.

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@tumacius @CullumSmith @BackwardsFeet @S_OReilly_USA the difference is that you are a teacher and the Holy Father is an absolute monarch

though even then, wouldn't that actually apply that if you give direction in the class the students have to follow it even if you don't formally add it to the syllabus

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@MDLatinMass @GregoryCaridi so the SSPX doesnt operate in places where the traditional sacraments and catechism are available right?
Because there is clearly not an "emergency situation" requiring the SSPX to operate a small chapel within 30 minutes of 3+ TLMs

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@imaginarylilguy Aliens called it off and now everyone has to do mandatory psyconic data security trainings while they try to figure out who broadcast the plans on an open channel

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@catholicpat Maybe it's being a minnesotan but it's hard to imagine that working just given how I don't think anyone want to be cold called by strangers any more

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@Mwarning515 @MtnStdTime @TacticalNukachu Can you cite a churvh document where you get this stance from or is this your personal opinion

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@Mwarning515 @MtnStdTime @TacticalNukachu So a person baptized with a valid formula is a Christian regardless of whether they're catholic right?

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@Mwarning515 @MtnStdTime @TacticalNukachu Are you claiming baptisms done by non catholics are invalid?

[Spencer @SpenKub]

@Mwarning515 @TacticalNukachu And no polite statement does not mean Episcopalian or anglican clergy are "in good standing" as their orders aren't recognized and they can't operate as catholic priests