@rock_breakin I couldn't respond to Lizzie since she blocked me. She hates being challenged.
"They will know me by my voice"
I'm not questioning that. You still need to hear his voice first, and how do you do that without putting in your own effort?
I.e studying the bible?
@5SolasMissy@AletheEkklesia@needGod_net I was blocked by Farming Jesus for calling it a work, but it clearly is
It's a process
In order to believe, you first need to hear about Christ. This involves reading the bible/other material, listening to preachers, discernment, prayer etc which takes time
It's not automatic
@BenBRockN@SpeelingBChamp@farmingandJesus You don't magically gain that knowledge, it takes a lot of effort/work on your part to even find out about Christ, let alone accept him.
Buy a bible, read it, understand it, clarify all doubts, watch videos, read external material etc etc etc.
How can you guys not see this?
@SpeelingBChamp@farmingandJesus So he expects you to do nothing and just somehow gain that knowledge?
I'm afraid you aren't being honest.
Ask any convert about how they accepted Christ, and they will all tell you about the journey. Study, prayer, discernment etc etc before that final step can take place.
@SpeelingBChamp@farmingandJesus The thief already knew Christ was Lord. That doesn't come automatically. Even his disciples didn't know immediately. We know nothing about the thief's past, and how he got to find out about Christ.
@farmingandJesus Except you don't know him immediately. Nobody just knows. You are being dishonest if you say that.
Hours, days, weeks and even months are needed to reach that conclusion.
This idea that works are not needed is a blatant lie.
@Clones_r_clowns@miske26650@scrumming_ten Doesn't mean a double world cup winner will be an automatic fit in every environment.
Stop taking things so personally.
He did a shit job in Leinster, that's a fact.