The only way you can jam the square stealing-peg into the round hole of reality, is if you assume the thieves started at the top, but not the very top, because there was too many of them stealing at the same time and they all had to fit, while not loosing rocks to crush their compatriots below. These enterprising bandits started off with great gusto and enthusiasm for their stealing, so the initial section was stripped down to the bone. After that, they progressively moved lower, but realising that smashing stone to steal on the face of the tallest point in the Egyptian desert, is actually a pretty low IQ way to engage in criminality, so they just took the easiest, quickest material that they could, in a similar manor to old time Gold miners in the American West. Finally, after having saturated the market for Limestone dust and rock chips, they abandoned the rest at the base.
That takes significant jamming to make fit.
A random side quest during the Pole Shift Conference was an 8am fossil hunt in the sandstone outcropping at the back of Observer Ranch. I took Ben's pre-stream pump up song, and cut potentially the most hype fossil hunting walkout video of all time...
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@DGr8Awakening@deberelli@SunWeatherMan@EthicalSkeptic all make appearances.
Not in the relatively recent past. This shale layer is conventionally dated to 400m+ yrs ago. Its been been through countless flips, and spent eons under the ground. The ranch is just a small portion of the layer that's been pushed up and exposed to the surface, while not being washed away.
Pole Shift Conference: Observations from the Field - #3
In the lead up to the Pole Shift conference, the framing on X was pure theater. Penrose Colorado would be the long awaited proving grounds for a scientific cage match between the two most prominent catastrophism theorists in a generation. Two models, two heretics, one stage, one weekend and by Monday morning, an emergent victor.
The truth, as is so often the case with serious work, was considerably more involved. It required both men to wrestle with evidence brought by their opponent that cannot easily be ignored. Owing to the caliber of intellectual inquiry on display, neither participant, would be accused of employing the academy's favorite tactic, the one built around willful ignorance of the inconvenient.
Bear with me, because to land the third observation I need to walk through both models in enough mechanistic detail that the gear deploys successfully.
* This entire thread was written based on statements made and arguments furthered during each mans relevant presentation. It is obviously nowhere near the complete picture for either perspective, but I have attempted to remain concise and gracious to both. If anything is inaccurate, my hastily taken notes looked like hieroglyphs by the end, I apologize and will gladly correct.
** This is the third thread in a series examining the first Pole Shift Conference, a five day gathering held in Penrose, Colorado this May, headlined by Ben Davidson (@SunWeatherMan) and Roger Cunningham (@EthicalSkeptic). Thread one, on the speakers themselves, here: https://t.co/nCrbWtAEgY Thread two, on the attendees, here: https://t.co/Dj7RyANHxX.
@zachariaspro You started a boutique int. shop? That's awesome, directly in my wheelhouse. Looking forward to reading some of your product. Do you have anything else you can sample beyond the critical minerals report that's currently live?
Thank you for reading and engaging with the topic!
You're correct, since the discovery of the Harding Sandstone outcrop on Observer Ranch earlier this season, a number of people have found fossils, including a few minor ones on our brief early morning group stroll.
Roger and I weren't so lucky, unfortunately. Can't win them all.
If you can't see the image caption, this picture potentially makes zero sense: "Roger Cunningham and the author examine an outcropping of Harding Sandstone, a shale bed of local fame for its well-preserved early vertebrate fossils (primitive fish plates like Astraspis and Eriptychius some of the oldest known at the time they were described in the 1890s), situated at the outer reach of Observer Ranch. Neither individual knew anything substantial about fossil hunting. Neither individual was successful in locating one."
Roger's ECDO, by contrast, doesn't require the Sun to do anything dramatic at all. His mechanism is fundamentally internal. Earth is currently rotating around its geographic poles, but the actual mass distribution of the planet, the LLSVPs sitting beneath Africa and the Pacific, would, under the moments of mass of a gyroscopic body, prefer to rotate around a different axis, roughly 104 degrees off from where we currently spin.
The only thing holding us in the current orientation is the geomagnetic field, which couples the inner core to the mantle and creates what Roger calls βgeomagnetic priority.β Weaken the field enough and the constraint releases. The mantle, now free, snaps to its preferred gyroscopic equilibrium around the core. Conservation of angular momentum does the rest. No external trigger required. The energy was latent in the planetβs own mass distribution the entire time.
Thanks for reading, legitimately, I've never really written much for the public in the past, and for your interest in this niche, but bleeding edge subject, of potential monumental importance. I have a feeling that this may have been the first conference, but it won't be the last, nor will it remain the largest, for long. There are a few things cooking that I'm tracking.
Thanks for taking the time to read it. This one was by far the longest to draft, because I had to reconstruct my notes and check all the papers and academics mentioned because I had butchered the spellings of their names π. I also reviewed whether cited sources were validly claimed.
Totally unrelated, but with Starlink, an off road vehicle and some mild discomfort, we could actually live stream a boxing match and/or debate between Ben and Roger at the literal NP'. We can tell Ben it's the African ascetics bodybuilding championship to bait him in. Just outside of Changwe, not far from potentially defunct Chinese mining operations. ECDO expeditions π₯
Which brings me to my third observation: the deepest disagreements in science are almost never about whether something happens, they are about which link in the causal chain you choose to call 'the cause,' and once you accept this, an enormous amount of public scientific theater is revealed for what it actually is. Roger spent twenty-five years working backward from the geological and archaeological record toward the mechanism that could have produced it. Ben spent over a decade working forward from the cosmic environment toward the consequences it should produce. They met somewhere in the middle of the planet, at the boundary between the core and the mantle, and discovered the awkward truth that their mechanisms didn't compete, they handed off. The micronova provides the impulse. ECDO provides the response. The crust unlocks because the field collapses, the field collapses because the Sun spat ash that disrupted it, and the Sun spat ash because helium-4 doesn't fuse on the path to lithium-6. Each man owns one segment of a single causal hydraulic line, and neither could have built the other's segment, because the disciplines required to construct each end have been kept ruthlessly separate by an academy that genuinely seems to believe geology stops at the lithosphere and astrophysics stops at the magnetopause. If our scientific institutions were structured to allow plasma physicists and systems engineers to be in the same room without one of them needing first to file for danger pay, we'd have arrived at a synthesis like this in 1995. Instead we got it outside Penrose, Colorado at a mid-range wedding venue and a luxury RV park in the opening days of May 2026, courtesy of two men who asked the questions and followed the evidence wherever it led, asking only that truth be the final arbiter and accepting whatever reputational cost their determination imposed.
"I did not know. I went and looked. Everything else was vanity." Axiom #22. TES.
These differences are not trivial, and several of them, the cosmological-framework dispute in particular, are likely to remain genuinely live for some time to come. But the meta-question, whether the two models were fundamentally at odds with one another, was answered cleanly by Saturday morning's Q&A. An audience member, working through the apparent contradiction, asked Roger whether the micronova and ECDO weren't ultimately in conflict. Roger answered, almost casually, that they were not, that in fact a sufficiently large helium-4 eruption disrupting the Sun's alpha and phi scalar field could be exactly the trigger that collapses Earth's magnetic shield far enough for ECDO to fire, and that this was already accommodated within the theory. Ben, watching from the back of the room, where I had observed him taking copious notes, did not appear surprised. The two men had spent twenty years building what, on the surface, appear to be rival mechanisms, but they walked onto the same ranch and discovered that potentially, they had been describing different rows of the same ledger.
@EthicalSkeptic@joerogan Yes, its time to have Roger Cunningham on the podcast.
Yes, it's time to sub out one of the rotating cast of room temp IQ's in the recurring guest Rolodex, and place into the game, the man who has likely resolved the Grand Unifying Conspiracy Theory.
@joerogan
The contemporary academy mistakes its comfort for competence. It can model black holes, dark matter and multiverses without flinching, yet trembles at the idea that sky and sea once conspired against our ancestors in living memory. Myths are not failed science, despite the ridicule imbued upon them by the academy, they are the compression algorithm of a civilization that lost its instruments but kept its soul. The true test of any intellect is whether it can bear the weight of evidence that refuses to stay in its assigned seat.