@rupasubramanya@JeffreyASachs Because there's an ongoing genocide of Palestinians, and not of Jewish people.
Also because Palestinians are prevented from returning to Palestine; Jewish people from anywhere are enabled to take over Palestinian homes and land in Israel.
@RepJoshG Israel been a lot more effective in exterminating Palestinians. Perhaps a thousand times more effective. Unless you think Palestinian lives aren't worth as much as Israeli lives?
@WilliamofKent@rorysutherland Least natural - created by intentional planning rather than by economic or practical considerations.
I think this conversation is over - you're pretty stupid if you can't figure out why 'people who chose to live in an expensive rural area' isn't a representative sample.
@WilliamofKent@rorysutherland Quality of housing and lifestyle, also legendarily shit in most of the suburbs, particularly in the new ones going up - that people are buying anyway because it's the only way to get on the housing ladder.
@WilliamofKent@rorysutherland People are forced into the outskirts because we don't build cities densely enough - in part because of car-dependent infrastructure.
Suburbs with crappy amenities, poor public transport provision, and long commute times - these are the cheapest housing, not the most desirable.
@ballmachine5000@Alonso_GD Sovereignty in the UK lies with parliament. There certainly wasn't any vote on their individual access.
Yes, obviously the UK should be able to ban people - that doesn't mean that banning people for these kinds of flimsy and political reasons is acceptable.
@WilliamofKent@rorysutherland Suburbs are the least natural, most planned form of human living. This is very well-evidenced - that you're ignorant of it doesn't make it false.
@WilliamofKent@rorysutherland Most people choose to live as close to their workplace and amenities as they can afford to. Hence rural land is cheap, and urban land is expensive. Most people will choose a substantially smaller home that's better-located.
@WilliamofKent@RossIGrant@rorysutherland You keep referring to a reality where cars are more convenient and cheaper.
That on exists when people are dispersed, in suburbs/rural areas.
It doesn't in urban areas, and we can and should make more areas like that, because they're better for people and the environment.
@DugganTheOne@two_twenty_four@farazamiruddin Of course people make a decision based on what's convenient to them.
But what's convenient to them changes based on housing density and public transport provision, which are too path-dependent to be changed much by purely market forces.
@DavidTaylor85 Saying that you'd vote for a proscribed group over another group that's committed genocide, is perfectly morally and socially acceptable.
You just didn't like it because you support the group that committed genocide; Israel.
Banning Cenk Uyghur and Hasan Piker from entering the UK is an absurd and cowardly decision from an increasingly authoritarian government.
Let us call this what it is: an attack on the freedom to criticise Israel, as well as the UK governmentโs own complicity in genocide.
This is a really grim decision alongside Cenk.
People often talk about dangerous road we'd go down under a Reform government - this is another clear warning we're down there already.
A Labour government doing everything possible to silence criticism of the Israeli Government.