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WAIT, HAS ANY VTUBER COSPLAYED THEIR MODEL AND TOOK CINEMATIC PICTURES?? That would be SO awesome! PLEASE, I WANT SO SEE!

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@priestrot_ Yeah. But consider many characters they draw look the same one way or another. Drawing different features is a skill you have to develop (especially for races, to actually make them LOOK like that) or look at pictures, and many are beginners + I don't think they use references...

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@UsafumiMeii975 The first one because it's easier to read and easier on the eyes thanks to the value difference + you accomplish a form of depth. The second one appears to be too bright, it's straining to look at, and looks as if it's one mass from further away... I hope you understand. 😅

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@aochan_xxn @AizumiShina Wow...there is SO much going on

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@johnny_glue @OrevaZSN Yeah, but you see if someone is filming. With meta glasses, you don't realise.

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BAHAHAAHAHA!!

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@spider1o1 Sadly, they only say "Buzz!" after Buzz showed them Andy's signature on his foot. Makes me question if they wouldn't recognized him otherwise...since they noticed the other Buzzs behavior, but didn't pry further...

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@ceres_sculd @michimouto Oooh, I didn't know you could use them anywhere! I thought only for that particular streamer but that's much better.

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@amndarte Looks like a wig with a different hair colour...the right is much better

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@roxymanticore Humor probably, but what if you don't have that either? x-x

[N'Yuuki 🍁 ・✦・ @nyewkey]

So this problem actually goes beyond just Price Filters/Range Filters, which has been a hot topic lately! 😅

It's actually touching on a core platform problem many of these commission sites run into.

Lots of these art sites offer a simple custom pricing flow. You set the base price, toss in some add-ons and call it a day. But they miss the mark when it comes to structured pricing for services that would naturally have multiple base options.

This causes both artist and buyer friction because they don't have the right tools to handle that scenario.

So... from the jump...

1️⃣ Variations
Right now, artists are in this weird spot because they either create a separate listing for each of their services (which is what should happen with the current setup on most platforms), or they stuff everything into 1 listing.

This causes buyer frustration when they're searching and see a Full Body example, click the listing and get Headshot pricing.

The best way to solve this from a platform perspective is to add proper Variation functionality.

Example:
Title - Custom Illustration
Price - "Starting at $30" or "From $30 - $140"
Variation 1 - Headshot: $30
Variation 2 - Half Body: $70
Variation 3 - Full Body: $140

This lets artists keep everything clean under 1 parent listing, while still making the base price clear. IMO, that price should be displayed on both the listing AND any search/category pages.

Don't mistake Variations for Add-ons either. Variations are the base service and Add-ons are extra on top of that.

Attached screenshot is a rough example of what this looks like.

2️⃣ Add-ons
Ideally, Add-Ons could be implemented with Conditional Logic based on the Variation selected. So if a buyer chooses Headshot, it shows one set of add-ons, and Full Body shows another.

So that brings us to...

3️⃣ Attributes
Not all artists use the same wording for their listing titles or variation labels.

One might say "Bust", another says "Chest up", etc.

Since these sites typically already have defined Categories like Illustration, Animation, Video, etc. they could also incorporate structured attributes/facets that are specific to each category.

Illustrations for example might be:

💠 Body Coverage: Headshot | Bust | Half Body | Full Body
💠 Finish: Sketch | Lineart | Flat Color | Rendered | Painted
💠 Subject Type: Character | Couple | Group | Creature | Background
💠 Style: Anime | Chibi | Pixel | Semi-realistic, etc.

Artists can still name their variations however they want publicly but map them to standardized attributes behind the scenes so filters aren't trying to guess from titles.

4️⃣ Price/Range Filters
Discussion about "price competing" aside (I think that's a non-issue), Variations add extra wrinkles to these filters because they now need to understand variation prices, and not just the parent listing.

Otherwise you get weird cases like:

Custom Illustration
Variation 1 - Headshot: $30
Variation 2 - Half Body: $70
Variation 3 - Full Body: $140

If the buyer filters Max. $50, that listing should technically show because one variation is in range... but if the buyer's looking for "Full Body" art, it can still feel misleading.

If they could also filter by "Body Coverage > Full Body", then the filter would know not to show the listing under Max. $50 because the Full Body option is $140. This is why Attributes (above) are an important part of the filtering logic.

TLDR: The real solution to frustration from both sides isn't just adding price filters. It's better structured listing data as a whole. Commissions GG is in a unique position to address some of this while they're still in Alpha and actively developing. 👍

Categories > Parent Listing > Variations with prices > Attributes for filtering > Conditional add-ons

IMO, that gives artists a cleaner setup and gives buyers a less frustrating search experience.

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@VinhKyVT You guys know selling fanart is illegal, right? It counts under copyright infringement. ONLY if you have the permission to do so. Let's respect their wishes, please.

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@LimmyVT How do you tell real vtubers from bots apart?

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@KurogamiNiamu I think its less the colours and more that it's a bit much? There's nowhere my eyes could rest if that makes sense

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What is it with vtubers and huge bazonkas?

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@acaciadust Where do you get the ideas from?

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@soft_ghosts Throw a coin to choose, then you don't need to worry

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Hot Take: Some Vtuber designs are just too cluttered. I look at it and don't know what's going on. Everything just turns in one giant mass.

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@perhapsGodot This is why the second one looks like water. I just saw a boat until you said cheesecake..

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@pisslover699696 So, did it work?