@IFFFMEISTER Ubiquity is specifically rejected SD VIII [92] [We reject that] Christ’s humanity is locally extended in all places of heaven and earth. This should not be attributed even to the divinity. But Christ—by His divine omnipotence—wherever He will, can be present with His body…
@IFFFMEISTER Multivolipresence > Ubiquity
SD VIII [78] Christ has received this majesty, according to His humanity, at the right hand of God’s majesty and power. So also, according to His received human nature and with the same, He can be, and also is, present where He wants to be.
@RScottClark@heidelcast@herron_luke@Jerrsosaved Is there a resource to which you can point me about how Nomism is tied into this issue? I have seen Nomism blamed for various theological issues, but I am not well read enough to understand what that means exactly.
@_BenLee The Marrow of Modern Divinity was very helpful for me in this regard, though admittedly a combination of the Republication it teaches and general thoughts about assurance being of the essence of faith (as Heidelberg says), both of which WCF rejects, made me into a Lutheran.
@MattTestifies If you think the true and living God threatened to kill Emma Smith if she refused to accept Joseph Smith’s practice of polygamy in Doctrine and Covenants 132 51 ff., and that that is an inspired prophetic utterance, you’re truly on your way to hell to join your false prophet.
@Calvinreformed@Drocula3 The parable of the sower doesn’t say their faith was false/not real, just that it had no root, wasn’t well established. But they did believe.
@Drocula3@Calvinreformed That’s a good point. I think 1 John is all about maintaining fellowship with the Apostles, who are in fellowship with God (from epistle intro). It’s clear the “they” who went out are false teachers by the immediate context. “They [false teachers] went out from us [the Apostles].”
@Drocula3@Calvinreformed 100% agreed. Parable of the sower is not in favor of Calvinism, unless Calvinists employ their classic word-redefinition move, so that “believe” doesn’t mean believe, like when they say “is” doesn’t mean is, “all” doesn’t mean all, “world” doesn’t mean world, etc.
@cum_granosalis@DrJordanBCooper I’m ignorant on Barth’s work, but everything Ive seen about his adultery with his assistant leads me to dismiss him as worth reading. Why bother with the theology of an unrepentant adulterer? We all sin, but Barth seemed to actively work to integrate his sin into his daily life.
@Heidel_bro1563 “If Abraham had seen the kindness God shows by speaking and associating with us through the daily ministry in Baptism and in the Lord’s Supper, he would have died from wonderment and joy.”
—Martin Luther, Lectures on Genesis
@RRT5ON1996 I agree with nuance in practice. I had a non-WELS friend call me from a warzone last month, with whom I prayed.
I appreciate what you’re doing brother. Just a bad look to say “hey this is what WELS believes!” and continually miss the mark.
@RRT5ON1996 I’m a lay person as well, not officially WELS yet. But I have studied this issue.
It is explicitly not “in principle… for *public* displays.” Unit means UNITY, all, every. The UNIT concept is for every instance of fellowship, not just the public ones.