@therealstandage Because we knew what he actually means when he says “jesus”. Not the eternally God, uncreated, not exalted man, but the exalted man, 2nd god of this world spirit brother of Lucifer, naturally begotten by elohim (1st god of earth) as you and I were by our earthly parents
Joseph Smith was tarred and feathered for inappropriate behavior towards a minor. He was a criminal who was arrested forty times. He bribed judges and intimidated government officials. He practiced folk magic and divination. He sacrificed dogs. He created the Book of Mormon as a hoax with the help of his friends and family. He defrauded many people out of their life savings with illegal banking practices. He fled from justice out of New York, Ohio, and Missouri.
He was a narcissist who lied incessantly. He committed adultery too many times to count. He was arrested for treason, smuggled a pepperbox pistol into Carthage Jail, and subsequently died rather unceremoniously in a shootout. He was most definitely a conman and reaped what he sowed in life.
Fixed it for you.
@Protestia Nothing inherently immoral or wrong about using a prop but like dang people do we really need all this to understand the point? It’s just adult youth group man. Just go deeper in the text without the fluff
@farmingandJesus@jp811_@Tieka4ever@TylerGross86 Respectfully those aren’t good points that’s truly the wsssence of Phariseeism. Adding a fence around the law to ensure it’s not broken, legalism. We have Christian liberty so if your conscience binds YOU, fine. Don’t go. But don’t bind the conscience of others
@farmingandJesus I go to the most solid reformed and biblically based church with arguably the best teacher/pastor and we play a $20 buy in every Thursday lol Christian liberty is a beautiful thing
@farmingandJesus@ImJimR87 I mean if it’s just entertainment then that logic could be applied to any “frivolous” use of money. Ballgame, movies, mini golf, theme park… if you’re entertained must not be a good steward! lol
@MrTimothyRenfro Ah so the way you presented it originally wasn’t actually the whole story, God doesn’t just love us. He requires things of us. Otherwise he’d just love us straight to hell
@Ainigma777@YinKysmileS Pretty sure he adhered to the theological system of the time. “Have you not read” was his most quoted refrain to the Pharisees who adhered to man made traditions which were a yoke they wouldnt bear but are you saying Jesus didn’t practice theology? Read Luke 24 and get back to me
@Ainigma777@YinKysmileS So you dont adhere to specific doctrinal and theological points that you draw from scripture? lol you are somehow the only Christian outside of a theological system huh?
@Ainigma777@YinKysmileS Is he not adhering to a carefully constructed theological system? lol or does he just believe nothing? It’s such a funny thing to listen to when people try to explain why they don’t. 🤡
@DineshDSouza The heavenly host.
“so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places. This was in accordance with the eternal purpose which He carried out in Christ Jesus our Lord,”
Ephesians 3:10-11 LSB