@wendelltalks Not quite.
Obedience has zero to do with us.
None of us can be obedient to God in our right behavior.
The only type of obedience that we are capable of is an obedience that has been given to us freely, as gift, by the Holy Spirit. That's the obedience of faith.
@cjohnsonn0311 An ever bigger tragedy is that many in the church believe that their holiness is something that we work towards. Instead of the free gift of holiness in the person of Christ Jesus.
Our holiness is never dependent on what we do or don't do.
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But it's fine and dandy to blast Islamic call to "prayer" over loudspeakers across the UK and to block streets & thoroughfares with hoards of "praying" Muslims.
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But it's fine and dandy to blast Islamic call to "prayer" over loudspeakers across the UK and to block streets & thoroughfares with hoards of "praying" Muslims.
@cjohnsonn0311 God turns us from ourselves back to Jesus again & again & again. All throughout our lives.
Because we remain sinners all throughout our lives. Yet as we are declared to be sinless in Christ. In our Baptism we are crucified & buried w Jesus..and then raised anew in Christ.
Amen.
@TullianT Amen, Tullian.
"Simul iustus et peccator"
We are 100% sinner..while being 100% holy & righteous in Christ. Simultaneously.
The Catholic Church hated this scriptural & theological truth when Luther proffered it and 98% of Christians today (of all stripes) still despise the idea.
@TfabEliza Backdoor self justification.
Luther called these types and the Roman Catholic clergy "Two wolves tied at the tail."
Outwardly they can't stand each other but basically they hold to the same 'Christ + some of your sincere effort'.
@wendelltalks I don't like it when preachers talk about good works as a necessity because then the already tainted motives of a self serving self promoting sinner become even more self focused. Better to just forget about the self altogether where God is concerned.
@cjohnsonn0311 John MacArthur might as well be a Catholic then.
If you look to yourself in any way for assurance then you are right back in the self justification game.
@cjohnsonn0311 How can he know?
Since only God knows who is a Christian and who is not.
What he more than likely means is that it's hard to get certain sinners to play the phony baloney game of pretending to live a holy life, the self sanctification/obedience game. Which he advocates.
Which he
@cjohnsonn0311 "Limited atonement" is a lie.
Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. The Bible says so.
Could you imagine being a Calvinist and telling someone, "Well..it's possible that Jesus loves you. Maybe, just maybe..Jesus has forgiven your sin."
@cjohnsonn0311 What is Washer talking about?
Jesus is the One who told us not to judge.
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you."