People are still yelling about that chamber empty CCW post.
I find it psychologically fascinating that of the two camps in this debate one side is made up of dudes who hardly ever shoot, who have little to no context specific training (or worse they are trying to substitute their old military training that’s got fuck all to do with civilian CCW in the normal world), yet who will argue for anything-goofy statistical analysis or irrelevant historical minutia-that enables them to justify continuing to suck rather than putting in the effort to get a little more proficient at something that’s supposedly important to them.
And the other side is everybody who actually carries, learns, trains, practices, and shoots a lot.
You’d think that would be a clue. But nope.
The reason is simple. All that hypothetical internet bloviating falls apart in actual practice. When chamber empty people actually try their stuff out under stress it falls apart. When they get trained they get tired of being left in the dust by everybody else and start using a loaded gun. Once they start using a loaded gun they get over the psychological hump of being scared of their gun.
And despite all the silly posturing about how their amazing situational awareness would never let a bad guy get close or make it so they always have both hands available, I’ve NEVER seen someone get through a force on force class and continue carrying empty chamber.
(Ironically in all the many times I’ve talked about this topic, and I mention testing out your assumptions in F&F like ECQC, I’ve also NEVER had a chamber empty dude ask me what that is, or how they can get into that. Go figure)
For those of you demanding I look at your “middle ground” -When is chamber empty the way to go?
-you are equipping a bunch of poorly trained conscripts with a bunch of surplus bullshit guns that aren’t very safe.
-you are for some asinine reason carrying an unsafe piece of shit in an unsafe manner (or you could just get a normal gun and normal holster like a normal person)
-newbs who just started carrying who haven’t got over the mental hump who are scared to manipulate their gun. Great. That should take you a week. Now get better. (And we all know that’s not who is arguing with me)
Now get ready for the Been Shootin Muh Whole Life/Qualified Xpurt crowd who mag dump at trash once a year to come yell at us.
Side note. It’s is hilarious that the same type of dudes will tell me that you have to point shoot because you won’t have time to aim, also say you have to carry empty because you’ll have plenty of time to rack the slide… ok. Have you considered using that extra time to aim? 😀
@JoelWBerry Is it okay to care that my race is disappearing from the earth? Or should I be okay with all culture disappearing and everyone become ahistorical light brown, like satan wants.
This is so radicalizing to GWOT veterans like me. We were told that we’d “fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.” I still can’t believe I wasted my youth because I believed in this lie.
I’ll never forget hearing the Islamic call to prayer when I was deployed overseas to Qatar and Afghanistan. It was eerie. I hated it.
Now that same call to prayer is being broadcast in the Costco parking lot in Frisco. It’s not just Texas. When I drive my son to school in NC, I have to drive past a giant mosque. How tf did all of these people get here?
The people that brought Muslims to the United States are traitors to the highest degree. They make Benedict Arnold look like a kindergartener. Bush, Obama and Biden are the tip of the iceberg, but their co-conspirators are numerous.
If this trend continues, we will no doubt see the type of scenes I witnessed in Kabul. I’ve posted the picture. This is the aftermath of a suicide bomber and 500+ lb of HME in the back of a flatbed on Goat Love Road in Kabul… Coming to a town near you.
At this point, deportations are the moderate option. The betrayal is so deep and the rot is so extensive that I no longer want the moderate option.
In the Ecuadorian Andes mountains in the late 1990s, “the people in a potato-growing community asked the Quito government to help them buy simple metal hoes and plows to replace the wooden ones pulled behind their horses.
“The government turned to USAID.
“The agency sent an agricultural specialist who recommended that the farmers stop growing the several dozen varieties of potatoes that had been their tradition for hundreds of years. He told them to concentrate instead on just four of the most profitable ones and, if they did so, offered to give them a tractor and mechanized potato planting and harvesting equipment. He would also arrange loans to buy glyphosate-based herbicides and other “miracle chemicals” that would bring them into the modern age of science.
“The tractor alone was worth about ten years of the entire community’s gross income. It was an offer they couldn’t refuse. They planted the four potato varieties.
“Within a few years, blight killed their entire crop. I stood on a hillside that had been ravaged with erosion by the tractor. I heard the heart-wrenching stories of people whose lives had been shattered by crop failures, mudslides, and flooding. Families were forced to leave their homes. Many ended up begging on the streets of Quito.”
— Confessions of an Economic Hitman, 3rd Edition