Thodoris Greasidis

Software Engineer @balena_io. Author of jQuery Design Patterns. Co-Author of localForage.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@SerbetciCanel @AnnoyedMad Which part of "renounces all rights and title whatsoever" you don't understand?
Tr was not invited by ICJ1998, since it's not among the parties concerned, since it "renounces all rights and title whatsoever".

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@SerbetciCanel @AnnoyedMad I will ask you something simple:
ICJ1998 states that Tr renounced the Hanish under Article 16 even though they were not named. Can you guess under which part of it and let me know?
A) "territories ... outside the frontiers"
B) "islands other than those ... recognised"

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@SerbetciCanel @AnnoyedMad ICJ1998 Erithrea/Yemen already has a ruling about not specified/mentioned islands&islets outside 3nm, the Hanish. It was clear that Tr renounced them under Article 16 of Lausanne and didn't ask Tr to participate, so your theory seems invalid by counterexample.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@SerbetciCanel @AnnoyedMad It's great that we now have established that Tr renounced all right beyond 3 miles.
That's it. That's the end of the story.
We don't need to talk about anything else.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@Makedon_Akritas Maybe you can also add that Imvros and Tenedos were also remilitarized after Montreux. So it would be hypocritical to claim that Montreux only applies to the straights.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@moderatus_gr Visualization of what you wrote using the Wikipedia map as a base

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

Blocked because @katiyaruk couldn't give me an answer on how Tr renounced the Hanish but not the islands in the Aegean 🤷 That's a first for me.
https://t.co/iuyfx3cO0G

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@katiyaruk @nords41 If the ones that were not named remained to Tr then why ICJ says the opposite and you don't have the Hanish? 🤡
The 3nm frontier is first defined in article 6 and anything not specified was renounced by article 16 ;)
Here that are in green for your convenience.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@katiyaruk @nords41 Marmara islands are in internal waters, as Tr itself says, so they are within the frontiers.

I repeat, your statement is invalid by counterexample coming from ICJ.

I'm glad you accept that the frontier for the Hanish was the North Med coast, so the same applies in the Aegean.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@katiyaruk @nords41 Well, there are the Hanish and that ICJ ruling, that confirm that islands and islets outside the 3nm were renounced by Tr with art16 :)
So your argument that they are part of the frontier is invalid by counterexample :)

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@katiyaruk @nords41 ICJ1998 Erithrea/Yemen already has a ruling about not specified/mentioned islands&islets outside 3nm, the Hanish. It was clear that Tr renounced them under Article 16 of Lausanne and didn't ask Tr to participate, so your theory seems flawed. You need to first prove ICJ wrong.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@hepdurgunsu @amfipolis1 No they are not.
It only talks about the ISLANDS, and doesn't say ANYTHING about the waters, neither inside nor outside the 3nm.
If they intended to limit Territorial Waters, they would have written so.
In treaties we do exactly and only what's written.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@hepdurgunsu @amfipolis1 Yes I know.
It doesn't say anything about the water :)

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@hepdurgunsu @amfipolis1 No they are not. See the search at the top but finding anything 🤡

It only says the really specific: "islands and islets lying within three miles of the coast are included within the frontier of the coastal State."
In treaties we do exactly and only what's written.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@hepdurgunsu @amfipolis1 In treaties we do what's written and signed, not what anyone thinks it says. "Territorial Waters" is not in Lausanne, in case I'm wrong please enlighten us.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@pinokyo01 @MakisHellas1 Gr never claimed anything further than the median line.
Your screenshot doesn't say mainland anywhere 🤡

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@katiyaruk @besmartand @nikos_gr1 @GreekReporterr Gr never claimed to extend its TW further the median line. So, that's in line with your screenshot.-

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@pinokyo01 @MakisHellas1 Gr never claimed anything further than the median line, so which exact part of your screenshot is the conflicting one?

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@ictinus_x Also fun how the center of the circle seems to be in East Libya.

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@YangoKalamaris @turkic_facts I don't see any reduced effect
https://t.co/g0vA7mrZLX

[Thodoris Greasidis @thgreasi]

@turkic_facts I'm sorry for ruining it for you.
I just added circles on your own pictures which prove that Diapontian, Strofades & pretty much all Greek islands actually got 100% influence and the delimitation is pretty much on the middle line, or even more in some places 😝😜