@LisaBritton The "marriage doldrums->female hormonal changes starting in 30s->lack of hormones driving lack of connection and desire for sex->middle-aged divorce initiated by the woman" track is played out all the time and never talked about.
Men find out too late that most roads end here.
@ChrisWillx What are 3 things men AND women implicitly expect from women? 3 things that are on the same level of import and scale? That are of service to others?
It would be awesome to hear answers from the ladies. And having kids is for women as much as men, so no cheating.
@CaudilloNuclear Most of the arguments online right now can trace their root to this asymmetry. Who needs to perform to get a date? To get sex? To maintain fidelity? Who has to provide? Protect? Whose performance in bed is judged?
99% of relational performance burdens are a man's.
@wil_da_beast630 Also, the marriage doldrums->female hormonal changes starting in 30s towards perimenopause->lack of hormones driving lack of connection and desire for sex->liking the guy less->middle-aged divorce initiated by the woman track is played out all the time and never talked about.
@wil_da_beast630 So a extremely likely scenario seen in these sexless marriages is probably some combo of points 1-3. Diffuse responsibility. Which makes sense when you think about it.
Which is probably why nobody thinks about it...
@ChristianityOn This is great. As an autistic man it took an extraordinary effort to understand.
I also do not understand why women aren't ever pressured to learn theory of the mind of men.
The asymmetry here is forever going to be the greatest obstacle.
@wil_da_beast630 Sigh.
What prompts someone to post something like this, on either side, other than engagement farming?
How low IQ are the masses who pick a side and fall for this?
Shame needs to be normalized.
@CaudilloNuclear@PlisskenPatriot@cielo_pua This is the single best response and should be asked for 90% of posts. Seriously.
You rarely get an answer because people don't want to fix a problem, just talk about. Which is in and of itself feminine as hell.
@wil_da_beast630 "Has to fuck him..."
We have to normalize women enjoying sex. If she enjoyed it 80% as much as he did then she still made out and the point stands.
However, if a woman is having sex with a man she isn't attracted to/doesn't enjoy for financial benefit that would make her...
@wil_da_beast630 I said this elsewhere, but...
I was an athlete growing up. Most of my fellow athletes peaked in HS/college and still talk about it decades later.
Also, American's obsession with youth is insane. Started with Boomers and is getting worse.
@wil_da_beast630 It is an amazingly concentrated effort. They literally will defend it, obfuscate, and then not respond to one comment. Feels like a government propaganda machine in overdrive.
This is something that should be completely bipartisan with everyone aligned. Mindblowing.
@CaudilloNuclear I told my wife long ago that the only thing I want for Father's Day is one day a year when I don't have to be a Dad, or responsible at all. Just me.
@DrDebraSoh Women demand men meet their expectations while resisting any men have and no matter how obvious the asymmetry is they refuse to acknowledge it.
@wil_da_beast630 Most long-terms I've been in always involved us watching together. Seldom was it me that suggested. Became less and less as the relationship progressed and she became more satisfied.
Of course, there never seemed to be enough sex for me to be satisfied.