@apricottpeach@sephirothrule34 If there was any industry or machine or product that caused this kind of ecological harm, even from a purely anthropocentric viewpoint, it would absolutely make sense to address it vigorously.
@apricottpeach@sephirothrule34 Agriculture uses 76% of habitable land - 80% of that being animal ag, and 16% being plant ag(4% being non-food). This makes it responsible for 40-90% of deforestation. This makes it THE leading cause of desertification, habitat loss and a leading cause of climate change.
@MizuumiKami@ihateatsushi Agriculture uses 76% of habitable land - 80% of that being animal ag, and 16% being plant ag(4% being non-food). This makes it responsible for 40-90% of deforestation. This makes it THE leading cause of desertification, habitat loss and a leading cause of climate change.
@MizuumiKami@ihateatsushi There are no magical regulations that will make farming somehow not disastrous. There is no magic bullet to ignore trophic levels. In fact, industrial agriculture is already more efficient than almost all counter proposals (other than future implementation of things like biotech)
@MizuumiKami@ihateatsushi I'm asking you to say which regulations you'd implement and how you would develop the political capital to do so. I'm not asking you how you're going to assassinate someone (which you won't do).
@MizuumiKami@ihateatsushi I'm not sure why I want to starve to death, for example You should explain that. Maybe it's true, but I don't think it's very obvious that I want to starve to death.
@MizuumiKami@ihateatsushi I'm as willing to yap about those people on the internet as you are. But you know yapping is the extent of what either of us are doing there, right?
@MizuumiKami@ihateatsushi farmers don't already try to limit expensive inputs? Even meeting current beef demand is impractical without doing this, and shifting excess meat demand to pasture would be impossible on top of it. Of course we could try using biotech to improve things, but we already are.
@MizuumiKami@ihateatsushi the meat that isn't grass fed beef? We'd still need to use land to grow crops to feed those animals, which is the inherent problem leading to less carbon sequestration as well as depletion of land and habitat loss. Are we just gonna grow the crops closer together? As if currently