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@TonyLaneNV Effectively, the first 3 most likely are a life sentence anyway based on her age. If the 3x manslaughter charges are served back-to-back, that would be 60 years. She would almost certainly die in prison. The only difference is whether parole is on the table.

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Staten Island man struck by lightning while walking to a dentist appointment.

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@BrianAtlas All of this, and many of these women want to focus on the few minor issues that have come up in the trial. He is human, as we all are. However, they expect absolute perfection. And, when it doesn't happen, they latch on to it, treating it as currency to shame and degrade him.

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To the low IQ Lindsay Clancy kinslayer apologists claiming Patrick Clancy was "neglectful". This is everything he did:

1. He worked from home, beginning years before the crisis. Patrick had worked from home since 2018 and had a home office in the basement, meaning he was physically present in the home while working.

2. He was working from home during the period immediately preceding the killings, rather than commuting to an office.

3. He and Lindsay employed childcare help for years. They had a babysitter, "Miss Jen," for roughly 12 hours per week, who helped so Lindsay could sleep after working overnight nursing shifts.

4. They hired another nanny in August or September 2022, only months before the killings. The arrangement was approximately 12 hours per week, with the nanny caring for all three children, particularly the infant Callan.

5. The nanny provided more than basic babysitting, including childcare, food preparation, laundry, and light housekeeping.

6. Patrick and Lindsay alternated preschool drop-offs and pickups for the older children.

7. He took 12 weeks of parental leave after Callan's birth.

8. He supported Lindsay remaining home with the children. Lindsay ultimately never returned to her nursing job after Callan's birth.

9. The family had the financial ability to keep Lindsay out of work, rather than requiring her to immediately return to nursing.

MEDICAL AND PSYCHIATRIC SUPPORT

1. He was involved in her psychiatric treatment and was aware of the various doctors and providers she was seeing.

2. He was aware of her medications and believed she was taking them as prescribed.

3. He recognized that she was experiencing serious sleep problems.

4. He was aware when she reported worsening symptoms from medication.

5. He drove Lindsay to Women & Infants Hospital during her December psychiatric crisis.

6. He returned to the hospital and spoke directly with her treatment providers after they requested that he come in.

7. He supported her participation in the hospital's postpartum psychiatric program.

8. He supported her subsequent inpatient treatment at McLean Hospital.

9. When Lindsay was frightened and reluctant to go to McLean, Patrick told her that she needed to go.

10. He visited Lindsay twice while she was at McLean.

11. He communicated with McLean's medical staff, including speaking with a doctor about her medication.

12. He helped get her medications to McLean when there was an issue with her prescriptions.

13. He continued supporting her outpatient psychiatric treatment after she was discharged from McLean.

14. He repeatedly checked in with Lindsay about how she was doing.

15. When Lindsay disclosed disturbing thoughts about the children, he involved her parents so additional people could help.

16. He directly asked Lindsay whether she needed to be separated from the children.

17. He relied on Lindsay's representations that she did not need to be separated from them.

18. He helped facilitate additional medical appointments, including appointments concerning her medications and mental health.

SLEEP AND PHYSICAL RELIEF

1. He and Lindsay slept separately at times so she could get more sleep.

2. The babysitter was specifically used to give Lindsay opportunities to sleep, particularly after nursing shifts.

3. The nanny reduced Lindsay's childcare and household burden after Callan was born.

4. Both sets of grandparents became involved in helping the family, particularly during periods when Lindsay's condition was deteriorating.

CHILDCARE AND HOUSEHOLD RESPONSIBILITIES

1. He cared for the children while Lindsay received treatment.

2. He took Dawson skiing while Lindsay attended the Women & Infants program.

3. He stayed home with the children while Lindsay took Cora to appointments.

4. He and Lindsay shared preschool transportation responsibilities.

5. He was physically present in the home while working, rather than being away at an office all day.

6. He was home with the family during the period immediately preceding the killings.

7. On January 24, he remained home working while Lindsay was caring for the children.

8. That morning, Lindsay took Cora to a doctor's appointment while Patrick remained home with the other children.

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@broadwaybabyto I don't think all women are like Lindsay Clancey. Likewise, I don't think all men are like these sickos. If the evidence proves their guilt, they should be punished as severely as the law allows. Likewise, LC should also be punished to the full extent of the law.

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@FearlessWolfess Many women can't pick their battles. It isn't necessary to nag a man for a laundry list of minor issues for hours on end. He will just ignore you entirely, including on important concerns. Also, if you think every disagreement is important, maybe he isn't the right man for you.

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@PatsyDiabetes Interesting take. Whether she is criminally liable or not, there isn't any dispute from her own defense team that she was the one that strangled her children. I'm curious what evidence you have gathered which proves that someone other than her committed these murders.

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@CathyReisenwitz Misogyny describes not just outright hatred of women, but also any behavior where a man "invalidates her authority and preserve a male-dominated hierarchy." What does that mean in practice? That definition gives women the freedom to define misogyny solely on their own beliefs.

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@magicinthealps There have been some very ignorant takes from men regarding LC. However, it doesn't negate the very concerning words and actions coming from a very vocal group of women supporting LC. At a minimum, those people need to be ridiculed and shamed to limit those ideas from spreading.

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@michellmybell1 @Lunatic__Fringe I'm not that ignorant. There are plenty of women who denounce the murders and the unfounded hype around LC. But, it doesn't justify ignoring the valid questions around the ones who are behaving irrationally. Good faith discussions on that topic are very much needed.

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@michellmybell1 @Lunatic__Fringe It doesn't matter if it is 1 or 1 million. Anyone, man or woman, who openly supports a murderer should be condemned and shamed for that opinion. And it does justify an honest conversation about PPD, PPP, mental health treatment, and the impact of hormones on women's behavior.

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@Cr7Godbrand By the time a boy reaches 18, he has learned, through experience, women reward his nice behavior with animosity. Women are literally teaching boys to be hostile through their actions. It is no different than beating a dog repeatedly and wondering why they attack their owners.

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@michellmybell1 @Lunatic__Fringe Whether it is 1% or 50%, female supporters are very visible and very adamant on their beliefs. Contrarily, those woman against LC are far less visible and far more metered in their opinions. This presents a narrative, right or wrong, that women overall strongly support her.

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@colonelkurtz99 Like it or not, optics do play a part. How they look, how the speak, how they visibly react to certain information. It can all have an impact. With 9 women on that jury, it's safe to say at least a few have been swayed by the "emotional" aspect of the court proceedings.

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@lucythegreat123 Only her and God actually know if she was insane at the time. The prosecution showed that she knew of her worsening condition and that the medical treatment wasn't improving it. Yet, she didn't actively separate herself from her kids to protect them from herself.

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@linereader0517 @EndWokeness Even if you believe she had PPP AND wasn't being helped, she still had enough sanity PRIOR to the murders to know she was unwell and to separate herself from her kids. She believed, incorrectly, she was the only one that could properly care for them. IMO, that makes her guilty.

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@SMB_Attorney Overall, this is a fair take. I don't have to agree with LC supporters to understand their take. They see her as a loving mother who "lost her kids" due to a moment of insanity. I stand in complete opposition to that view. But, that is likely being argued in the jury room.

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@geraldposner Interesting. In such a high-profile trial, it seem strange that this judge would deviate from standard procedures. It certainly raises the question as to whether he is trying to tip the scales. At the very least, it would give the prosecution an avenue of appeal.

[Gerald Posner @geraldposner]

A quick legal thought on news the Lindsay Clancy jury appears deadlocked: Under Massachusetts law, preliminary jury instructions are supposed to tell jurors NOT to consider or speculate about the maximum penalty for any charge.

This judge did the opposite. He told jurors exactly what the max penalty was for each charge.

I thought that was a mistake because it created a real risk: jurors sentence-bargaining over what they think she deserves as punishment instead of focusing on guilt vs. lack of criminal responsibility.

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@HarrisonKrank The LC verdict is not the real issue. The overwhelming support a murderer is getting from women is the issue. Supporting those with mental health issues is fine. Turning her into a cult icon and empathizing with her actions is a far bigger, and more dangerous concern.