I see angles all the time. I help my son with high school geometry. I'd welcome seeing an angel though, especially when I was Christian. Then I just got tired of reconciling how God is both perfectly hidden and also a meaningful (but immeasurable) part of existence. If an angel appeared, the hidden part would be gone, but Id still want to ask why God remains hidden from the observable universe.
You missed the point but I digress. NDEs are anomalous and there are many competing explanations that approach a solution. I have been under several times and I can tell you I haven't been to heaven or Hell yet. One day we will understand the exact mechanisms that cause NDEs and OoBEs and that god of the gals will have to retreat as well. It's only a matter of time but for most Christians, it'll take longer. They seem to hold onto fantasy and deny evidence (and the evidence of their denial is massive).
@strikezcoal1@lilbrudder2@darwintojesus I'm not sure hypnosis is a scientifically sound or reliable practice.
You would think that all atheists would have had a "hell" NDE, but you said yourself that some saw Jesus. According to Christians on X, atheists are the devil's minions.
@BootsJR25@StormNightsong@darwintojesus No. Sex with menstruating women is listed among the other moral prohibitions (btw, the distinctions themselves are non-biblical Christian inventions).
It's hard to make the case to prohibit one when the Bible clearly prohibits all.
No. Christians argued and ultimately cherry picked the laws they wanted to keep. Today they reject homosexuality in Leviticus but don't care about the laws prohibiting sex with menstruating woman just a few lines away. Morality has always been a negotiation with society and we need only look at modern Christianity for evidence.
Btw, even today Christians fight over what laws to follow.
You are correct. The young storm god Yeweh initially suffered from the more fatherly El. At some point they nerfed as was done on other Mediterranean cultures. They also got rid of Baal and Ashara too, but for different reasons.
The Hebrew god underwent further evolution after Christ and after the Bible was canonized (is the Trinity doctrine).
Morality clearly changed over the Bible narrative as well. The culture went from "sex slave good" to "you probably shouldn't have sex at all if you can help it".
Many do as they wish regardless. You posted this nonsense on X against God's teachings not to lie. Your morality is just as broken as every other human.
If you were consistent with God's morality, you'd stop lying in X and you'd have two wives and/or sex slaves as is permitted by God in the Bible in both the old and new testaments.
@ShawnTrooper@darwintojesus -Social evolution
-group survival ethics
Both offer better explanations for morality than "god is the appeal to authority we all need" argument.
@BaptistJoshua_@zoverions@darwintojesus Slavery. It wasn't wrong for most of Judeo-christian history, but it is now (unless you ask some Christians who thinks it's still moral).
Correct. The development of this "fallen angel" came much later with the development of the concept of Hell. For most of the Bible, salvation was a temporal thing, during your lifetime, and not related to the afterlife (everyone went the Sheol anyway). Only after the exile period dis theologians have to invent a realm of justice after life because that people certainly weren't getting justice in their current ones.
The concept of Satan as a single person also developed late.
The universe had a beginning, doesn't imply "from nothing". Besides you don't have to even believe in the big bang to be an atheist. What about the Great Simulation Atheists? What about the Transpermia Atheists? The Aliens-did-it atheists and so on?
It's like me saying that all theists lie about what atheists believe. It's a hasty generalization. It's clear though that you are lying.
...God knows you aren't actually dead. This pattern is also distorted by your own bias. People often see more than one being or loved ones. You claiming it's always the Hebrew god is NOT found in the data.
The fact that your brain has to be dying in order to maybe have one of these experiences is damning itself. God is otherwise completely hidden from anyone who takes a look at the Bible, knows anything about science or has a modern morality (you know, opposing rape, murder, and slavery).
@strikezcoal1@lilbrudder2@darwintojesus the Hell part is not part of the pattern and many of these can be explained by neuroscience (not all). NDEs are also rare and not guaranteed. Is god a respecter of people? Why the inconsistency? Also, why would an all knowing god give you this in the first place?
@strikezcoal1@lilbrudder2@darwintojesus Buddists aren't seeing Jesus. They are seeing Buddha. So that would definitely contradict Christianity unless Jesus put on some weight post-resurrection.