Tyler Renfrow

A Reformed Baptist, a husband, and a father. A sinner freely pardoned by Christ.

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate Come on, Nate. I don't buy it. It's pretty clear. And you're reading into the text

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate It's dishonest because you say the "if perhaps" is, maybe they will repent, maybe they won't. So you put it on whether the person will respond that's unclear. But what Paul says is unclear is whether God will grant the repentance to the person. It's not being honest with the text

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate “The ‘if perhaps’ has to do with Timothy not knowing who will repent.” Not honest with the text. “If perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth”.

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate Haha. Ok. Let’s say that’s what the text means (even though the text says no such thing, but rather that God grants repentance itself), so God does not grant everyone the opportunity to repent? You confront someone in sin, and God might not grant them the opportunity to repent?

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate You literally just said “He GRANTS that we be able to do so”.

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate Doesn’t work. First, if they are already capable of repenting, why does God need to grant the ability to repent? Second, it says “if perhaps”. God might not.

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@scottrswain Wow. I don’t get it even after translating

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate Also, it says “if perhaps”, so God might not, right?

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate Because you’re saying if they repent God will grant them repentance. It’s funny

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@daren_collins Oh my, man, you don’t understand the position you’re arguing against. Trinitarians also believe in the hypostatic union.

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@NickHintonn Hey just so you guys know this is why I don’t really like the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe. The atonement is completely misunderstood by CS Lewis. Sorry to ruin it for you, my fellow Protestants

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@IdleAn94328 “I only worship one god, but yeah he’s got a lot of competition and a bunch of equals”

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate Haha why do they need repentance if they respond well?

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate But the text says “if perhaps”. So God does may not grant someone repentance, even if they are corrected with gentleness

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@PendletonWaffle @QuestionTrinity I don’t either. I’m saying he’s committing blasphemy against the Son

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate Explain: "if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth"

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@1984_nate I don't think it's vague. It's the clear grammar. Grammar matters. I don't think that's what Rom 10 means. But think about this, Nate, Repentance is necessary to be saved. Repentance is a gift, and it is a gift that God does not give to all.

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@TableTopLiberty @Mormonger That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that Mormons believe in a different Christ, because their Christ does not share the same being with the Father. Polytheism vs Monotheism is pretty foundational stuff. In the Mormon scheme, He's a different god than the Father

[Tyler Renfrow @TylerFrow]

@theelderpepe Mormons reject Christ and Christ rejects polytheists.