@willgoby "why ship two characters if you don't even like both" while barely hiding their spiteful animosity for will is so funny you just have to laugh
@ashleykisse@rekiwrites just being dense on purpose bc if you'd just taken 2 secs to look into the actual criticism you'd know damn well that fem mike has nothing to do with it lol
@PuppyMikeW turning against will, especially in that situation and considering their history, is extremely ooc (essentially bastardizing him). which is fine if hat's your thing but reflects the author's intent & priorities
@PuppyMikeW + it does a terrible job at identifying mike's core traits because its intent is to make will suffer rather than exploring the characters' psyche. mike at his core is a protector and has shielded will through all the show
@PuppyMikeW i think they handled poorly the implications of will's CSA and tossed it aside when done using it as shock value. i criticize the show's lack of care put on such a delicate topic, but what does it say about a fic that carelessly keeps putting him as the victim of sexual offenses?
@PuppyMikeW e.g. did you still think it was "fucking great" when will, who has been assaulted before in canon, kept getting sexually harassed by some dude and mike got angry at him instead of defending him? it's not a good look
@PuppyMikeW so you've seen their disgusting behavior but continue to defend their work. i don't get how can you love a fic that it so obviously reflects the author's opinions, resentments, and near-fetishes.
@notjay2u@balkanfinalgirl were you bored or why did her "lying" require that much attention or effort from you. op didn't even mention your ship to justify being this tilted. i just find it absurd to bring up an old tweet and keep going on about semantics
@Finn_Nulty@misscIouds i mean i couldn't add anything to "i say kick away" either. also i don't know why we keep going on abt this topic when my main point was that you can't condemn him for his inaction while ignoring that mike was frankly terrible to el afterwards
@Finn_Nulty@misscIouds i forgot about s5! aside from that, i specified school harassment because your first comment was criticizing the fact that Will didnโt step in when there are many factors that can prevent a victim from doing so and it shouldnโt be reduced to mere cowardice
@Finn_Nulty@misscIouds speaking abt bullying-specific scenarios i can only recall 1 time where someone confronted their bullies directly. throughout all s1 we see them being harrassed and unable to stand up for themselves -were they cowards too? we shouldn't reduce such complex topics out of pettiness
@bylerying i just find the "mike figuring himself out without also hurting will" a bit funny considering the premise at his core is putting will through the torture chambers ๐ญ
@Finn_Nulty@misscIouds if will is a spineless cowards for not intervening (like most who have been previously bullied would in that situation) i wonder what is mike, who paralleld brenner, made her feel like a monster, offered 0 comfort and threw a backhanded comment to intentionally upset her