@DerpGently70@David_A_Dennis@Lanley316@joshwhitlatch That is not what that means, nowhere does it EVER say "Christ kept the law on our behalf". "Be perfect" is an active, present command independent of past and future. In this moment, be perfect, repent and love. God has always forgiven those that repent and turn from wickedness.
@joshwhitlatch JDubb, it is our unity with Christ that molds us to righteousness, obedience, and good works. If youre still habitually sinning, it's a sign theres still a barrier somewhere that needs to be broken down. All the apostles say you can look at fruit as a marker of faith thats alive.
@DominusAD78@joshwhitlatch The only time scripture will get quoted is with some super typical proof text from Romans or Ephesians that is so out of context that you know they've probably never ever read the whole letter.
@needGod_net This actually points out very well why your soteriology doesnt work. You would say "because I believed". You wouldnt say "bc Jesus died for my sins" bc that still doesnt explain any difference. And despite you thinking it isn't so, you are still relying on something YOU have done
@god_wrestle@AnselmDescartes@AnselmDescartes you are equivocating "not a being" with "not actual". "God is not a being therefore God cannot exist" is like saying "the sun is not a flashlight therefore there is no light".
@yolotron3000@MrTimothyRenfro He then immediately talks about circumcision. Jews at the time were boasting in covenant inclusion over the gentiles and saying that they are justified by circumcision. Paul is saying you are justified by faith, which necessitates obedience to Christ.
@yolotron3000@MrTimothyRenfro I don't think he was limiting to just circumcision, but I also do not think he was talking about moral commands that Jesus also commanded. That is why he says "the only thing that counts is faith *working* through love".
@god_wrestle@AnselmDescartes No. God doesn't utilize mental faculties like tools, or have a shifting consciousness, private subjectivity, or reactive intentions. Otherwise God would not be the unmoved mover.
@AnselmDescartes@god_wrestle God is pure actuality, God is not a being. A being relies on an essence and an existence. God's essence IS existence, because God is pure actuality. Read Thomas Aquinas, that will help explain this a little better.
@Canonandcreed@needGod_net First off, great fruit. Maybe rethink your attitude.
Second, guess what Paul references right before Galatians 5:14? Circumcision.
Paul literally says "what counts is faith working through love". Verse 14 is from Leviticus. He's clearly not referring to moral commands.
@Canonandcreed@needGod_net Name a single place where Paul is speaking about faith apart from works, and is not talking about circumcision. Romans 3? Circumcision. Ephesians 2? Circumcision. Even in Galatians 3, he starts immediately talking about jew vs. gentile and the implication is covenant law.
@Canonandcreed@needGod_net But they're not wrong. In nearly every place Paul talks about salvation by grace through faith apart from works, he immediately brings up circumcision. He's talking about the Mosaic law every time, not Christ's commandments.
@5PointBaptist Matthew 5:22 "and if you insult a brother or sister, you will be liable to the council, and if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell of fire."
@joshwhitlatch Dog, the Bible literally calls faith a work.
Revelation 2:19 “I know your WORKS: your love, FAITH, service, and endurance. I know that your latest works are greater than the first."