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“Let us now put an end to the great anxiety of the Romans, who have thought it too long and hard a task to wait for the death of a hated old man.”

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld low I.Q. pedantic bullshit, again. There is no context in which removing healthy organs for cosmetic reasons isn't a mutilation. And low I.Q. pedantic b.s again trying to make a distinction between mutilation and amputation, which is actually divided by human input.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld they're objectively for aesthetic reasons, even within the context of gd being define strictly under ICD standards, this is non-debatable. Same thing with mutilation when it comes to cutting off healthy breast/penises. It's the objective definition of the thing.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld "gd's one, unnecessary component" you mean the necessary component? the operative component?
You say no and then just reiterated my point, GD=medical, medical papers say gender affirming care=better outcome, therefore is non ethical take but objective science? No?

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld are you pretending that a substantial amount transsexuals don't go around pretending they're actual women to the point they feel entitled to female spaces? are you trying to motte-and-bailey fallacy me?

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@IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld Yeah, so my point is that younger people don't have the capacity to make a reasonable decision that they should be infertile for the rest of their lives.
If you're 25 for example, I honestly don't think I can make an argument for you not cutting off your penis.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld the context of this conversation are opposite gender aspiring transsexuals, with an explicit reference to FTM transsexuals, please don't try to do a gotcha based on some non-binary shenanigans.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld I'm not beating around the bush,you're using the term "gender dysphoria" like people use "you're born gay, so we have to accept them"
I use gender dysphoria in the secular sense, as in a description of someone's idea/feelings, not in the prescriptive sense you're utilizing it.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld weird strawman because I explicitly told you that I believe people can believe they're the opposite sex and that can cause them mental anguish, I don't understand why you're trying to make this my argument, lol.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld established findings? misrepresentation? what findings? lol. When did I use my ethics to dismiss objective things?

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld Negatives compared to positives, such as instead of believing you're a woman and potentially cutting of your penis, you stop believing that and don't cut off your penis. I never said system for a reason, little bro.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld Those are not even close to being mutually exclusive, lol. You don't actually believe that. Are we pretending that appearances is not a gigantic aspect of a transsexualism?

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@IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld It's not subjective at all, those are descriptions about extremely specific and quantifiable things happening to someone's body. It's the opposite of subjective.
Come on, dawg.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld You're saying that because I'm concerned with a lie being used to facilitate negative outcomes for people is inherently an appeal to my ethics makes it so is not a valid take? and thus a moralistic fallacy?

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld It isn't unacceptable for men to become like females, I'm not the king of the universe, my concerned is when obviously vulnerable people are fed a lie that has quantifiable negative outcomes BASED on a objectively false premise.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld If I said that the solution for a suicidal 14 year old isn't to facilitate his self deletion you would conclude that I don't believe in suicidal ideation? What are you talking about, bro, lol.

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@IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld Because it doesn't work, leads to mental degradation and physical mutilations/infertility. And it's all based on something that is objectively not true.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld No I'm opposed to people falsely believing they can change sex is because it's obviously not true and it has physical repercussions if they continue to spiral into the idea.

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@tyrmaxus @IgotArts @H4nsSprungfeld I suspected that by "immoral" you meant appeal to a religious based valued. I would argue that there is no context in which cutting off perfectly healthy breast or penis for aesthetically reasons isn't a mutilation. I said "sex' for a reason.